From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Android port of Emacs Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 03:54:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83v8fnslfz.fsf@gnu.org> <83edmask4z.fsf@gnu.org> <874jn6fue3.fsf@yahoo.com> <83zg4yr1tf.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0qaee6b.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24352"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 17 09:55:32 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qAQmR-000691-5x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 09:55:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAQll-0003sG-86; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 03:54:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAQli-0003s4-Oi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 03:54:47 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAQli-0002ue-F9; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 03:54:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=piq2L2syBHcZ/gRaccTwcFKjEFVcgmdAt51aLvWfU6w=; b=MfQYReMGMAK/ yH6eB3SdfscCGWDtRyjLbw9o8e03+9KPy9haXeqN7dBKwXOtviPKoR5CeL5w8om4L/LCXkFfpJ69q Hd0mEmLS8akuRjot6EIAtb7a2PM2u4eKImoSfSxQz+ND1j4+ME21OVeRhRHheac/hGS4dxbZlRyuP EOVU9etzxxABypZwP9MPkjfyotuxEgb9+cQof+t/83C8FauNhdBos1nQ/f7uc3NlwKZD/JreMREdI IUpn6b7t5xxkb4b4RNzagCLEfbN3H1MmpR95MVK7TWpJWJJybkeA+JZe81qYte/CtWhI7/14HGqP0 EvsYQKT8dMjoR54RE1I23A==; Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAQli-0006Ih-8G; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 03:54:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87r0qaee6b.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Sat, 17 Jun 2023 15:33:16 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306866 Archived-At: > X and PGTK belong to our main target platform, so if we abandon those, > Emacs basically has no reason to exist. Thus, comparing with those is > not useful, because we _must_ support those as best as we can. We > don't have the same obligation to other platforms. X belongs to our main target platform, as it's a part of the GNU operating system. Wayland is a protocol developed by the Linux graphics developers, but is not part of GNU: we maintain its support to the extent that its users are willing to do so, as a nicety. Wayland is very much part of the GNU operating system, most GNU/Linux systems already support it in some form or another, and it is the replacment for X11 on literally all GNU systems in some time in the future (seeing nobody is working on X11 anymore). So far, the only Emacs developers who have expressed an opinion here have been you and I. So perhaps we should bring some other voices here: who has any names in mind? I think it should be included. If it doesn't get maintained, a call can be made to get people to volunteer. My only worry is how people will install it, if it requires going through some propietery app "store".