From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Naming guidelines for ELPA packages (was: Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: devil) Date: Mon, 15 May 2023 18:15:14 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ttwjbfqq.fsf@gmail.com> <83y1lv5qe9.fsf@gnu.org> <0c04d76f-cca9-8a33-14fe-b9ad96a2b9aa@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35504"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eliz@gnu.org, relekarpayas@gmail.com, philipk@posteo.net, susam.pal@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jim Porter Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 16 00:15:48 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pygTr-00091H-TQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 16 May 2023 00:15:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pygTM-0002Ol-RQ; Mon, 15 May 2023 18:15:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pygTK-0002Nq-Jj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 May 2023 18:15:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pygTK-0006h7-AM; Mon, 15 May 2023 18:15:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=PGhpUXF+iZu6woDLGbQv9uBuEUG6S+b4/2362p7lL4c=; b=EKYiScBUcuqE wY5SlSze7Fy6NASVY+WsLUm7jew2Ulnzesq49YG1d6ReevjMtlnN/ZS6yvOxlkugSwQQpTXOl8Fh0 wDE0bncUceZn+E/27ou4VG+fG4qgSoe3Q7nkhNmRLz4hiV6QxXDz79afDeKkZl9v0+/L86UOPGuNu dA0OS9r0rkdL4QBrnK6d7cJj9ntL1M8Mz5nP+/HMwie6F7bkBmF6MSK6l0m7h9dqdiB0e7ONd4g4F zeYdPccVeV6c+Uu2KgNQsYn6pV34hsT5Opg6pK6i+BzXN5TsjjuGfMCOPmZ+bZpIdZAHNtB0imeCN VMCKa08MSNZOOfPnbqaxbQ==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pygTK-0004et-1U; Mon, 15 May 2023 18:15:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: <0c04d76f-cca9-8a33-14fe-b9ad96a2b9aa@gmail.com> (message from Jim Porter on Sat, 13 May 2023 21:29:42 -0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306134 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I think your guideline text is good. It's quite clear, and readable too. But I'm confusd by this subsequent comment: > However, I also think it's important to show how you can > come up with a good compromise if you're a package author who just can't > let go of your fun package name. In my mind, showing in the > documentation how to compromise on this would go a long way towards > making package authors not feel like they're being micromanaged. The last paragraph of your draft text, about goblin-functions, > Instead, I finally opt for a compromise: I'll still use "Goblin" when > documenting the package and prefix names in my code with "goblin-", but > I decide to submit it to GNU ELPA as "goblin-functions". While this > isn't as descriptive as "gobject", it does at least provide a hint to > the reader that this is a collection of functions (intended for other > Lisp authors, as opposed to end users). seems to do that -- so why is a change needed? I think goblin-gobjects might be a superior compromise. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)