From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unifying "foo-mode"s and "foo-ts-mode"s Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2023 22:34:52 -0500 Message-ID: References: <877cyagmti.fsf@posteo.net> <831qoi85u7.fsf@gnu.org> <87mt76f4n4.fsf@posteo.net> <83sfgy6l0n.fsf@gnu.org> <877cy9b1k0.fsf_-_@posteo.net> <83zgb55409.fsf@gnu.org> <87fscw9av0.fsf@posteo.net> <83sfgw6g8m.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8ls7u0j.fsf@posteo.net> <83358u4st4.fsf@gnu.org> <83cz7v24y8.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="553"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 05 04:35:38 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pDH2Y-000AQT-9O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2023 04:35:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pDH1r-0005ux-Ra; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 22:34:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pDH1p-0005ui-HM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 22:34:53 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pDH1o-00020S-IW; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 22:34:52 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=g/AHYuS7AykmFu+ATuJPxeKxG0ubALXEStkoMFjIZGs=; b=Iz9YWhGg/5VJ 1dQd0LoNL6LR7DN1xqCROLBAttyP96OGesj5yH69+Ok0QwvELBqy8Pb046rC0bvaw604n5nu8ISA0 51nCK9KMNpS/ahosAARht6F+gEy04W3G777Ss8qVxFOzH3QdVi/sX5fp2IV7079pUqemNOLQg0X2+ WrDWCq0P5HjMZlycLCz6P3G05Yf5lx49CeOfRuN3nBsX0q64KVUf+wDROvAz3e+GUv/8N314sySjp XLgTOgMU/K/QkArv4f6BChadASo3jPVTaWYe/nNcs/Qc4kP4hMKoKlKb8Cmbnvatr9jECBcIJD6/c QiFjnIQnieNlAL0C2NDm6A==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pDH1o-0003n1-1v; Wed, 04 Jan 2023 22:34:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83cz7v24y8.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Tue, 03 Jan 2023 14:11:27 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:302234 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > IMO, we currently lack not only time, but also (and more importantly) > the necessary experience and user feedback to decide how to do it > correctly. We need to collect that experience before we decide on the > best arrangement. I'm not saying you should do this by any particular deadline. All along I've been talking about how this interface should end up. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)