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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Package "luwak"
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 22:35:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1p61Ve-0002m0-Ep@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h6xxacuw.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Philip Kaludercic on Wed, 14 Dec 2022 21:34:31 +0000)

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  > I can assure you that "modern user" wasn't meant to be a form of name
  > calling, just a reference to the fact that most people, even Emacs users
  > have at best little experience with text-based browsers.

Maybe you are right about that.  (I wish you'd said it more
straightforwardly.)  Maybe the package proposed under the name Luwak
is not actually worth adding to Emacs.  I don't know enough about it
to have an opinion about that, but I think we should consider that
question, rather than adding every package anyone suggests.

But that's a different question.  We can learn by looking at whether
Luwak is a good name, on the assumption we would install it in Emacs,
whether or not we actually decide to do that.

  > > To establish a guideline is a good idea.  The way to come up with a
  > > good guideline is based on some examples.  Thus, I think it is useful
  > > to discuss this example and handle it in a good way.  That will get us
  > > started on more general guidelines.

  > Do you have a few examples?

I have seen examples of packages we added in the past, whose names seem to
me chosen without attention to how helpful they are to users.
But I mostly don't remember the specifics without something to remind me.

Someone recently mentioned the file bs.el.  That is a rather unhelpful name.
If you don't know what it does, can you guess?

Anyway, the way to learn to think about this kind of issue is to pick
some existing packages, imagine hypothetically that we were going to
give them new names, and discuss possible suggestions.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-12-16  3:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-30 23:51 Package "luwak" Richard Stallman
2022-12-01  0:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-02 22:51   ` Richard Stallman
2022-12-03  2:49     ` T.V Raman
2022-12-11  4:04       ` Yuchen Pei
2022-12-04 23:18   ` Will Mengarini
2022-12-05  4:25     ` Jean Louis
2022-12-05 22:30     ` Richard Stallman
2022-12-06  9:05       ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-12-06 22:37         ` Richard Stallman
2022-12-07  3:33           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-07  7:11             ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-12-07  8:44               ` Andreas Schwab
2022-12-01  3:54 ` North Year
2022-12-11  3:54 ` Yuchen Pei
2022-12-11 23:34   ` Richard Stallman
2022-12-11 13:07 ` Yuchen Pei
2022-12-12 22:19   ` Richard Stallman
2022-12-11 14:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-11 18:03   ` Tim Cross
2022-12-12 22:19   ` Richard Stallman
2022-12-12 22:42     ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-12-13 23:58       ` Richard Stallman
2022-12-14 21:34         ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-12-14 21:41           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-12-16  3:35           ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2022-12-16 15:33             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2022-12-16 17:31               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-12-16 18:52                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2022-12-18  3:21               ` Richard Stallman
2022-12-16 11:05           ` Jean Louis

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