From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Help sought understanding shorthands wrt modules/packages Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2022 22:35:51 -0500 Message-ID: References: <651bbe21-f179-730a-4f10-7dc6d27055ea@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15418"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: akrl@sdf.org, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gerd =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 12 04:36:44 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1othJy-0003mC-RF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Nov 2022 04:36:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1othJB-0006dv-Fk; Fri, 11 Nov 2022 22:35:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1othJA-0006cn-AS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2022 22:35:52 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1othJ9-00073R-JS; Fri, 11 Nov 2022 22:35:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=W7v/g1C7lOaakpqOUNJtBhmcmN1LXRpxVswllrqyOuQ=; b=bQp8awdhPkq3 5o3WbtUqvK6dPPOy9r+i/PlFFzcFhm5pYXeAh2f0yRTLF2VvL4kGIHNRr07cIlMuUC8n/Dr9/tNSz SZi1sBgSkEIkGsBUsb4b7ApN9gOaDNzifG25PR6QX258+ZrzxLcjJs3Ss01B+c3M2OX8R34NK8X9m FJ8fh94g892eaUwdXraB6JrNkJser7BgRALpBjISNKBz44KbthXybW+9M0dKKPjrJuJSZ1jUkkE28 v5v30kRo5d3w2EBMBg7Z9xfxcZQd5e1KuJcE/P6sZmzIYB5PrPkUOb5SZwUbTd++Y7JHWI/hSH30l cIuGz0z8t6JEk+wMridv9A==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1othJ9-0007uS-BF; Fri, 11 Nov 2022 22:35:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Gerd =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= on Fri, 11 Nov 2022 10:35:03 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299594 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I don't agree. Before shorthands, a symbol had one name, after, it can > have many. That is a conceptual misunderstanding. Making a local alias for a symbol does not give it "many names". In this regard, there is no deep difference between shorthands and :USE. They both create alternate read syntax for a specific symbol but it still has only one name. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)