From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Help sought understanding shorthands wrt modules/packages Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2022 23:35:14 -0500 Message-ID: References: <651bbe21-f179-730a-4f10-7dc6d27055ea@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34875"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: akrl@sdf.org, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gerd =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 11 05:35:48 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1otLlc-0008sC-9h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2022 05:35:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1otLl8-0005iG-MN; Thu, 10 Nov 2022 23:35:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1otLl5-0005hJ-S0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2022 23:35:15 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1otLl5-0007Qc-Jd; Thu, 10 Nov 2022 23:35:15 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=sT+KDOQQA87QywRGIAyUf6g0+4WwrPkohhppV3WY9VI=; b=CR6SAKOXFYdn QT3cnnpvFZKgtVwH/gQhQcGl6Cq1lP6f1nt7Ebsqlo7bycIYFhZ2Z3WHBZqUc7ib3Sfql36vSAx0h Rju9uziX+AiGU9wIT6ReSiMrlZo1UzL6IYh9LUaOSphcJeqM1hirkCR18S2sqAukJuWi4I71rt+s5 rpGifBtfUH66kMICdhMllI8veZymCZiQyblrE+sW6nHSbcxGZn+/4wgAkYvZdj//dwBPpqMfCYNO9 pxofiY3dy6b4Fv7Tut4o9SBYecK26xTXkjzSWBbFCftSefmz/x0/9nrwqESZeHWGJTTEmvzK+wqu+ RfMNrzm0Wa0DFbRfwZC/hg==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1otLl4-000709-Vj; Thu, 10 Nov 2022 23:35:14 -0500 In-Reply-To: <651bbe21-f179-730a-4f10-7dc6d27055ea@gmail.com> (message from Gerd =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= on Tue, 8 Nov 2022 07:19:47 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299535 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I don't agree. Symbols are at the heart of Lisp. Changing their > semantics is a big deal, and as soon as that features is in, it will be > used. The shorthands feature is already installed, but it doesn't change the sematics of symbols. It is just an aliasing feature. The new feature of loading a file with added shorthands is just a variation on this aliasing feature. It will not change the sematics of symbols. > This belongs into a feature branch, IMO. That's a good idea. Can someone tell me how to do this? My knowledge of git is just barely enough to install changes in master. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)