From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: feature/package+vc 04c4c578c7 3/4: Allow for packages to be installed directly from VCS
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2022 23:14:35 -0400 [thread overview]
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> >After that, you may wish to load the code of that package, or arrange
> >for it to be loaded on other occasions in the future, or you may not.
> >We should provide easy ways to do those things if you want to, but we
> >shouldn't impose those things on you by default just because you
> >asked to see those sources in a repo.
> >
> In that case we are simply talking about different things.
We're talking about the same thing, but looking at it from two
different angles.
You want to do two things together: to check out source from the
upstrean repo, and set up to use that version by default in Emacs.
Now you've added a command to check it out and not do anything else.
I see them as conceptually separate. I think we should have a command
to check out source from the upstrean repo and no more. And then
a command to activate that version for use.
It's not a crucial difference. Either way, the user can check it out
with or without activation.
If we include checking out the ELPA repo, then we have four
possibilities: check out the ELPA repo, check it out and activate it,
check out the upstream repo, and check it out and activate it.
Then there is an advantage in separating checkout and activation.
Then we need only two checkout commands (the upstream repo and the
ELPA repo), and one activate command that can activate either repo.
But it's not a problem if that has to be done with four commands.
--
Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
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Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
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2022-02-14 16:20 ` feature/package+vc 04c4c578c7 3/4: Allow for packages to be installed directly from VCS Stefan Monnier
2022-02-14 20:57 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-14 21:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-14 23:44 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-15 2:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-15 17:13 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-15 18:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-16 22:49 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-17 2:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-17 9:21 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-19 16:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-19 18:35 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-19 20:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-18 8:57 ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-02-18 14:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-08 15:47 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-08 15:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-08 16:20 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-09 14:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-09 14:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-09 14:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-09 15:17 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-10 8:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-10 11:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-13 16:37 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-15 20:43 ` Fetching or installing package dev source from VCS: names Richard Stallman
2022-10-16 8:31 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-18 12:05 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-19 7:04 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-19 12:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-21 19:39 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-15 20:43 ` package-contact-maintainer Richard Stallman
2022-10-16 8:35 ` package-contact-maintainer Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-16 9:19 ` package-contact-maintainer Stefan Kangas
2022-10-16 11:02 ` package-contact-maintainer Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-15 20:43 ` Fetching or installing package dev source from VCS: manual style Richard Stallman
2022-10-16 13:30 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-16 19:47 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-16 22:33 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17 22:27 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-20 16:46 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-21 17:44 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-21 19:19 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-18 12:04 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-18 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-19 6:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-19 11:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21 22:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-23 19:11 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-23 19:11 ` Multiple index entries Richard Stallman
2022-10-23 19:11 ` "Package from Source" Richard Stallman
2022-10-24 16:27 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-26 19:18 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-23 19:11 ` Installation from ELPA Richard Stallman
2022-10-23 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-24 19:30 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-24 13:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-28 21:57 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-18 12:05 ` Fetching or installing package dev source from VCS: manual style Richard Stallman
2022-10-18 15:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-19 7:02 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-16 22:18 ` feature/package+vc 04c4c578c7 3/4: Allow for packages to be installed directly from VCS Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17 5:25 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-17 12:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-17 17:21 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17 21:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-18 20:45 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-18 21:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-18 20:43 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-18 21:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-19 7:08 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-19 12:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-19 12:29 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-19 13:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-21 21:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-21 22:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-22 10:45 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-22 14:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-22 15:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-23 11:32 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-24 13:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-24 15:35 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-24 20:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-24 20:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-24 23:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-26 7:19 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-09 23:14 ` Tim Cross
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2022-10-08 17:18 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-08 19:02 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-09 12:38 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-09 21:36 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-10 22:01 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-15 15:52 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-15 16:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-15 17:14 ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-17 12:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-16 7:10 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-10-16 8:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-16 9:29 ` tomas
2022-10-16 10:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-16 11:32 ` tomas
2022-10-16 22:22 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17 6:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-17 6:27 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17 6:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-17 17:23 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17 21:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-18 20:45 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-19 17:02 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-19 17:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-24 19:34 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-20 16:01 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-22 19:59 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-23 9:04 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-25 20:13 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-26 7:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-26 12:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-26 15:28 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-26 18:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-26 18:48 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-26 18:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-26 19:27 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-26 23:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-01 16:46 ` Richard Stallman
2022-11-01 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-01 17:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-01 18:35 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-01 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-01 19:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-01 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-01 19:26 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-01 20:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-01 22:19 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-02 1:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-02 1:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-02 8:01 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-02 12:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-02 14:44 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-03 3:18 ` Richard Stallman
2022-11-03 14:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-05 3:13 ` Richard Stallman
2022-11-02 3:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 8:13 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2022-11-02 3:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 10:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-02 12:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-02 13:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 13:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 13:16 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-03 3:17 ` Richard Stallman
2022-11-03 14:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-05 3:13 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-28 17:24 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-29 15:14 ` Merging feature/package+vc Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-29 15:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-29 15:39 ` feature/package+vc 04c4c578c7 3/4: Allow for packages to be installed directly from VCS Stefan Monnier
2022-10-29 16:00 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-29 16:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-30 13:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-30 14:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-30 14:15 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-30 14:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-30 14:51 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-30 14:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-30 17:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-30 22:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-04 18:01 ` feature/package-vc has been merged Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-04 19:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-05 11:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-05 16:43 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-05 17:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-06 11:43 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-06 12:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2022-11-06 15:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-06 15:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-06 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-06 16:42 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-06 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-06 17:31 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-06 17:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-06 18:35 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-06 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-07 8:42 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-07 12:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-07 16:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-07 17:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-07 17:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-07 18:10 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-07 18:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-08 20:15 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-08 21:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-09 8:15 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-09 12:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2022-11-09 17:49 ` Stefan Monnier
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2022-11-09 18:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-09 19:04 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-09 19:53 ` Stefan Monnier
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2022-11-16 17:29 ` Stefan Monnier
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2022-11-16 20:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-16 22:09 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-16 23:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-17 16:41 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-16 23:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-09 19:05 ` Updating the "ELPA Protocol" Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-15 19:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-15 20:41 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-16 7:35 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-16 7:54 ` Stefan Kangas
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2022-11-01 18:27 ` feature/package+vc 04c4c578c7 3/4: Allow for packages to be installed directly from VACS Philip Kaludercic
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