From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Renaming eglot -- or at least add an alias? Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 18:05:36 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83pmfdduix.fsf@gnu.org> <86wn9ji3ma.fsf@gmail.com> <86tu4lsnqk.fsf@gmail.com> <8335c0p2fn.fsf@gnu.org> <83leproov6.fsf@gnu.org> <83fsfzonwn.fsf@gnu.org> <5a1e604c-4500-a476-da3d-259d9057a7f0@yandex.ru> <838rlromxu.fsf@gnu.org> <83h70dk3wf.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23976"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 11 00:07:50 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oi0w8-00064Q-VH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2022 00:07:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52248 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oi0w7-0006sW-Ge for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 18:07:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38530) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oi0u1-0005GS-Nl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 18:05:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37380) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oi0u1-0001Eg-8s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 18:05:37 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=d0ssGsiPkSdGzHsQo2E5WCrdVlnvcMML3+a8urnhv5I=; b=MMK/hFRiFZS9 lxT/L5LCvFB4T7wWi6VarCqYcgyIPKW+w4+fckSoKD4qVk6NpxzuyCcEdTMNnXRr5eBdwZp4HuVDW FutdpeYMHJhnoEnRruUSkyQskTZat5jZA05PSTOn/cEGuiWyt4hnaDpKXdf1s6JsSKpHx2uP4ySeS 5tcYweGEo38C7KwBg67VIXpYY1Xp+BCCgbRWe65PE+Ro/KprkARllfNVy8xIWTQ46OmZD/oUcboGb NO3PDuH3gNHtl5VRa7fmCqQ55+Hn81GLTB1F52a5lF3NNjyFMQ9hoOa4Tbpr7gIVJWfnscq5sGRQw SxT0Yk+kOgY9zJE1tJ7eNA==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oi0u0-0003p8-NR; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 18:05:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83h70dk3wf.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sun, 09 Oct 2022 07:38:24 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297406 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Not clear yet (to me). Dmitry says they are basically orthogonal in > the features they support. Is this a coincidence, that different features just happen to be implemented in the two? Or is it for some underlying reason that is unlikely to change? Let's suppose that they continue to be basically disjoint in terms of features. Then we will never (or hardly ever) need to worry about "Which underlying method to do feature F with?" So, do we need to offer users the option of enabling Tree-sitter and not Eglot, and the option of enabling Eglot and not Tree-sitter? Or will users generally be happy with a single control to enable both of them (whichever are implemented for the language in use)? > > If they are intersubstitutable, in principle, maybe they ought to have > > the same user interface so that most users would not notice or care > > which one is doing the job. > You are basically asking the same questions I did. Good that we are following the same line of thinking. Could you show me the answers you got? If they were already posted on the list, could you send them just to me? No need to ask others to read them again. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)