From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Renaming eglot -- or at least add an alias? Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2022 06:43:53 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83pmfdduix.fsf@gnu.org> <86wn9ji3ma.fsf@gmail.com> <86tu4lsnqk.fsf@gmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9760"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: theophilusx@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 05 12:45:24 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1og1u0-0002G9-1y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 12:45:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38760 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1og1ty-0003pa-My for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 06:45:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57898) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1og1sY-0002CV-9D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 06:43:54 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43254) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1og1sX-0001jW-Vw; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 06:43:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=zw2ki883QDpXMDscMrn1eC8TVwgjmDQVfgB7UX87kQk=; b=hpgpQd8bZ8wI t0Vpet/9HIpDVENcFMQlrSbZMwE37lTmH0dbBHAbO1dQGqyK+KI8zRMvLaKL6c1u1Zwp2iebWWe/3 MHZ8OzkaPDUYamj0zRKXh/kwfpD/Wa2uqVyML6ankU+fIdsomPlHOmhgdpRgKe38NV29QOcH91nI6 eg777BTjcDMAzd/sbL93ri+dU5szQvmMKtUjyn5JVpapa7k7vIhnfVGgHMVIUHOgbVHW9LMYTkg5e vq8rSGA+yBPyaowL3kesvpsUHrAEMEHlnATr8BCB7hUL2vN5+vw3CxPCPaQq5tn+mawzP0CkvGICf 40+jp/D/1Ue/NVHUDip+sQ==; Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1og1sX-0003Ms-DE; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 06:43:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Mon, 03 Oct 2022 21:01:59 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296952 Archived-At: > > I am reputed to be good at that. nstead of telling me how hopeless it > > is, which won't convince me, how about telling me what Eglot does? > > Then we'll see if I come up with a more descriptive name. > > > No, I'm not the one pushing for the change. I am not "pushing for the change" regardless of all advantages and disadvantages. Rather, I am pushing to look for possible better names, and then make a decision based on what we will have found. Isn't that clearly the right thing to do? Won't you help us do it? Seeing that eglot would still keep it's original name, there is little to no reason to make up a name on the spot, and stop or hinder Eli from going forward working on the next release. A new name, or a better name that users would normally call, can be done at a later time, seeing that it would be just a simple DEFALIAS. So this discussion can easily be taken later, without casuing extra arguments.