From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Renaming eglot -- or at least add an alias? Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2022 21:01:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83pmfdduix.fsf@gnu.org> <86wn9ji3ma.fsf@gmail.com> <86tu4lsnqk.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11420"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tim Cross Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 04 03:07:28 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ofWPA-0002i9-0M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 03:07:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60526 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofWP8-0002mn-Va for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 21:07:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57580) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofWJr-0003Vb-2I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 21:02:03 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37130) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofWJq-0000T0-Po; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 21:01:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=IxJ+VVZNraS4peIFET/GvlWUhYzT2IxaJYlOaLBHleI=; b=kcNWjXlgnOzS wVtmh4giFFO4e56WFlwsKK1tCRxgXoZ28mWQSwBUMC4gy4SPW6EF6EB5lW2YvgxYIfBNPjdjoDCCy zz4ll1rql/67qCWOqWr2NoUGDTptH0wnk+dVRkxYwKbTpjNtu/uYI/IXa0wNCaxWavASmvd9GO5XC Ao/YPpQl8ASWp2ZXVb53xRF4aUOGaShiI0Cbr91CQFr/Ejnx2RiX/n1I+cICg07G0NZVRKptLVjDW elGE09ywScsaXymoDbAm8HuFiUDBHONZtZUqlBxRzskLGR0PhaHZZLCCqDaPa3TouXw3Sz0Mx3AAP qKb6tO4x+3he+qztT9qA3g==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofWJp-0000LY-8X; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 21:01:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: <86tu4lsnqk.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Tim Cross on Mon, 03 Oct 2022 12:13:43 +1100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296827 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > I am reputed to be good at that. nstead of telling me how hopeless it > > is, which won't convince me, how about telling me what Eglot does? > > Then we'll see if I come up with a more descriptive name. > > > No, I'm not the one pushing for the change. I am not "pushing for the change" regardless of all advantages and disadvantages. Rather, I am pushing to look for possible better names, and then make a decision based on whatever we find. Isn't that clearly the right thing to do? Won't you help us do it? If we find no better name than "Eglot", we should use that one. But we should make a real try to find the best one. It is your responsibility to > actually understand what eglot is if your going to argue the name needs > changing. That is a strange claom to make. I argued that the name Eglot has a specific disadvantage: that it doesn't mean anything to people like me who don't know what the package does. I don't have a "rasponsibility to understand what Eglot is" to make _that_ point. But I do need to understand what Eglot does in order to look for possible better names. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)