From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Renaming eglot -- or at least add an alias? Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2022 21:07:30 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83pmfdduix.fsf@gnu.org> <86wn9ji3ma.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27389"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tim Cross Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 03 03:09:10 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1of9xG-0006zL-GP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 03:09:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34188 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of9xF-0006H3-Jl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 21:09:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:32912) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of9ve-00057H-Ku for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 21:07:30 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40492) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of9ve-0008Pg-BK; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 21:07:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=9uBLPTByudc8gZ5jXMSWA3QwD2FfrxJzduTvjIO55vI=; b=JjI3hHKLKadi 7+Hsmw3r3WlApF2/5dDgn7zQ2wQz8B10cfyqKnqW9t92Vp2eynAU8/GArBEOAfZBQnr+DsnOwN09a 4PupkQzJ1az5oJ9+u38kLMkqSNcPyaUSaP9wo719QIpayzSHnIW/fiPMsQUVFP9/Vec76kIQaGj2Z ulYEt4XIElmO2VjLfrCV0cSNWw/p8E/zcfWotLcr9BpElG815knZn5o6A/Zyj9MWkI8OVG4ceUAub qBqCpPVl9JoYjOJMTfLSreg+QZCkc7ywI2wtszywv5bTn2Pf4M7O2XcJXAUx09s2YFc7/kTddaDU+ co/OcuALIjPvKxtzI/hC1A==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of9ve-0005MF-3f; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 21:07:30 -0400 In-Reply-To: <86wn9ji3ma.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Tim Cross on Sun, 02 Oct 2022 08:57:39 +1100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296723 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > While I can agree with the sentiment underlying this, I'm not sure I > agree with the practicality. The space of available meaningful names > which convey a meaningful description of what a module/library does > which are also not ridiculously long and are unique is actually quite > small. Naming things is difficult. I am reputed to be good at that. nstead of telling me how hopeless it is, which won't convince me, how about telling me what Eglot does? Then we'll see if I come up with a more descriptive name. > In reality, very few packages/modules actually provide any real meaning > based on just their name. Yes, we could do a lot better. > However, trying to change names > now will not help and runs the risk of further confusing the user base. It's amazing how quickly people start saying it's too late to change something. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)