From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Abysmal state of GTK build Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2022 23:01:31 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8735dn30if.fsf@gmail.com> <87pmgr8m3t.fsf@yahoo.com> <87a67u46ld.fsf@yahoo.com> <87zgfrsjwg.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13779"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 04 05:02:30 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oUfu1-0003SK-TL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2022 05:02:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59464 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oUfu0-0007CK-Hu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2022 23:02:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44880) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oUft5-0005kQ-NK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2022 23:01:31 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51286) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oUft5-0002bN-E6; Sat, 03 Sep 2022 23:01:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=tXR3PtzI+DiPxQL2EocTt1xMgtQUQi0ceJRZNtJrtdY=; b=W107QUO+PYUc rx8flk/xPuW+tCG4Hp903HZqTj4s3u/XraQWOpTydsGi6j8xmuORyN6sErOaJa14t+rlh6dhtfjhl eMGFHFwkCCq09DefXW2LS6ktZ3VqqhaT1/z5olwwNYyOaLXeLrvuusJwAkstYq74z8d0k7BuKUamI FLnIHMHOWvaQzLl++yKNLybmr7iQK9V5SuBrpGqHm+SA2q2o2rR09R7M5aQ4ssWn7n94sVyMV6yxl H3NAQcIeph6W82eD+yuAWkeWzJpjNxEEnbfgVNHZLvQAQ857FLZOEd7oxhF7QlFxG4il1n/egBduQ 8cTuZsnr/muNt0MrkuImFg==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oUft5-0000g0-66; Sat, 03 Sep 2022 23:01:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87zgfrsjwg.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Fri, 26 Aug 2022 12:34:07 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294680 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Does this mean that the user can't move an Emacs frame on the screen? > No, this means functions like `set-frame-position' can't move the frame > on the screen. The only way to move the frame is by the user dragging > it with the mouse. Thanks. I don't know whether that limitation is necessary or justified in some way, but I think that most users don't use `set-frame-position'. I don't think this will be a big practical problem for users. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)