From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Display of undisplayable characters: \U01F3A8 instead of diamond Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2022 19:32:01 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87edx28cl1.fsf@disroot.org> <83y1v7w6eu.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27093"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 02 01:34:23 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oTthW-0006ov-S6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2022 01:34:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42750 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oTthV-0001Fe-G2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 01 Sep 2022 19:34:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36296) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oTtfI-0000Fz-BD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Sep 2022 19:32:08 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34260) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oTtfH-0008Ih-EX; Thu, 01 Sep 2022 19:32:03 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=pV6E3VVNJLNzxK/Gh/FA9IRVS9ithKGFPON+k/DSAc8=; b=oM/78Uu8Pwnu zNmlEl6AIclUn4q4bJdDV3ni3fRA7jEJI73lMI0yroSTyRCiIaEwacs279aFSzLSJC79nCnN7/E+7 ddZJJa/994hP7d+jvfWwF6kNAJpFc6XAp+a2STO29vtfvPKYULqbsrNiDVjo4tSUUM1Gd64p+ygMk 84KSRqVl9MmqukPCrDc7Eg1JUU7mxhRPHIBVM0S99o+UcdeVRHQGptxGuV4XOt/cNjobEd5gvtIhN 7bx/yasENF4+CZ6/Sux3GNx212LHCBhsVniLTDt4ByUZe6uKtnxVEf82hvu0lWELMAqNIn4cNGaIt 9v7tAytqjWRpjHtnVm97pg==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oTtfF-0001PX-2x; Thu, 01 Sep 2022 19:32:01 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Gregory Heytings on Tue, 30 Aug 2022 15:44:34 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294508 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I don't understand why you want to use such a complicated mechanism, when > a much simpler and better one is available. I don't see how it could be simpler than using a Linux console, since that is as simple as could be. I have 8 of them, and to use one, I just type the character that switches. When you claim it is simpler, that has to be a misundersanding. > Is there a reason why you > cannot (or do not want to?) use fbterm? 1. It will be different 2. I don't have any idea how to use fbterm. 3. I odn't know what new inconveniences it would cause. ISTR seeing a discussion about whether fbterm "steals characters". I did not follow it because I don't use fbterm. I would like Emacs to handle nondisplayable characters on Linux consoles the way it did a year ago. I am sure that can't be hard. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)