From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Abysmal state of GTK build Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2022 00:06:58 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ilmlluxq.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87ilmlluxq.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h725olz1.fsf@gnus.org> <8735dplo5d.fsf@yahoo.com> <87r117a9yf.fsf@yahoo.com> <86bksa467l.fsf@gmail.com> <864jxz7ew7.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13058"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tim Cross Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 28 06:11:26 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oS9du-0003Hz-3j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 06:11:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60998 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oS9ds-0004od-Rw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 00:11:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40802) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oS9Ze-0000cR-Lb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 00:07:02 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56202) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oS9Ze-0000M4-Br; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 00:07:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=X3WUBoFnrhrmIvMgfIam8jsy+5Nrq0kdfM5hLecKczY=; b=d0diJhEgifW6 FtJbWxUPixJUuJC2JH3mgN2mdZWeaD/ijjMduSUcrfFmHEMJAktCNZC754JJIuYgntvHLq5HM8gH5 /u1L1qj+6Umh5koRFtTM9jud4u34a8/c6ug6BEcl2u9uNm6di7p3UayhUhlGD7wzc0uoZa8fsP4z8 ipJARnqyjt7LandCv99tFQm7orJJzWdfHx2Lv+CT6uRoKINqC+OXd0iHlPq6tXTYodUIIgEYSkkh4 Vd3iopbPupJWJ8qPAfj8CAMMdkp6jcYw9KQ9ExqYyz5842XzLxCp8ip47vsQqCaupj+hJotqg4+Sp 8mgRPwLKdMplNR9Y3DaQpA==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oS9Za-0004WJ-EE; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 00:07:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: <864jxz7ew7.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Tim Cross on Fri, 26 Aug 2022 15:26:12 +1000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294201 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Is using Mate running with GTK 3 tantamount to using GNOME 3? > > Or is it still like GNOME 2? > Apparently it is still maintained, but it has now moved to GTK3. Both > Ubutnu and Fedora have versions of their distribution based on the > current mate desktop. I still have the questions: Is using Mate running with GTK 3 tantamount to using GNOME 3? Or is it still like GNOME 2? Another question: do programs that use GTK 2 work well with Mate if Mate uses GTK 3? Another question: do Mate programs ever get screwed by surprise calls to _exit inside GTK 3? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)