From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Abysmal state of GTK build Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 23:44:25 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ilmlluxq.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87ilmlluxq.fsf@yahoo.com> <83h725deo3.fsf@gnu.org> <87bksdltah.fsf@yahoo.com> <87r119bni8.fsf@gmail.com> <87v8ql4kwk.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <871qt9h7ec.fsf@gnus.org> <87k071gjwx.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13746"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, spwhitton@spwhitton.name, rpluim@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 23 05:46:38 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oQKsA-0003Ns-Em for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2022 05:46:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33550 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQKs9-0001Hr-Af for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 23:46:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41264) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQKq2-0007aW-QZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 23:44:26 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35148) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQKq2-0003Bk-Bm; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 23:44:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=Z/1wQ0pvJPBpmu/buLQrniqIupvwVAAiNzXs72yS5nE=; b=LRwNJWhDmfIO /6QaO4sqUYqT29ngrygxluFFKyj0kKOO8hVra/wV4vdUHfxbNimvw9tNP/Kk/WHIWcZODA1I9GKx8 sBXN+0qA6PhYnFY/OK+DqwUTLY1VdaAOHa0Cer4pv3qrsdJvo2bVkgwIW4Lz4iyVlTiGP1Dtp66OL 5xQ8kvrfmeAHMI/rb+DiDDneDrkIxkSiTpszaKb4pRw4bkqHyflVzFPrkUn7HBHLaW5YF61nrWYyK HSyXN8Ql+9Y5wLCC7SdBmHGCdeJ9XVPtk5GEYoaP2wTWDqSM7s5ur/+PPTPD5SYtE63p04zGb0gUU SPnFBJ48FosdAbbPVX6w0w==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQKq1-0007we-Ti; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 23:44:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87k071gjwx.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Mon, 22 Aug 2022 09:13:18 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293834 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > GTK was fine at first (I remember the scroll bar flickering being an > issue in the early days of the GTK+ build), but due to the bad decisions > of the GNOME developers, has been getting steadily worse since 3.0, and > even more so since 3.4. Can we develop our port to work with GTK version 2? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)