From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs packages, GitHub and software freedom Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2022 23:32:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: <875yka4b91.fsf@disroot.org> <87y1x62vic.fsf@rabkins.net> <87zghm2rlh.fsf@disroot.org> <87czeikkzw.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2097"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tim Cross Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 08 05:33:44 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o9ekR-0000Ih-Gq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2022 05:33:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38994 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o9ekQ-0007h1-C9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2022 23:33:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55902) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o9ejH-0006Gv-C6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2022 23:32:31 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36350) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o9ejH-0002Dw-0E; Thu, 07 Jul 2022 23:32:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=CkPCoi4FyexBFydLmu/QoUTD1BLfPhZJ7S0tKtVpqhM=; b=UVX0nS0W9anp oVHum/1D/htK9NO8hjiFWEiXvDM116RdjSfffB+0lB7sVsPMKBaTd5QW9dxVT1c9Ud+CZwbNYmpRs squjvWzQrQ/+IA6HAGCVewwvX0BNUlh88mcLY/mvTaO/3dHXIh76K8DxRnyUvBX+d4NcvDDZcqqgg fG17z7ZOQPaqNovjui0Fz4gsR9zXahSAANyMoDH63/XiMXdy1Hc9FQQwZ9IKVIRiro4IwFArr8qBT fflXO/kHtrWUNiH+2/tAimMguzWEFk+8ALZ31DMcmNFLy08eJ+HjHUFmOKVLlDMk/VJfX0yeCHgSS h+nSffyBkbjZlz/KTsnRAw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o9ejF-00086a-9s; Thu, 07 Jul 2022 23:32:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87czeikkzw.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Tim Cross on Thu, 07 Jul 2022 06:52:53 +1000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291938 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > 1. This was all brought up quite some time ago and RMS basically came > down saying that on balance, we have to accept people will host packages > on github and that being hosted there was not to be an impediment to > being included in ELPA or nonGNU ELPA. This might seem contradictory > given FSF statements about github, This is not a contradiction. We urge people not to host anything on GitHub -- see https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria-evaluation.html -- but we do not reject packages simply for being hosted there. Those are two different questions. There are many computing practices we criticize or condenm, but we don't react to them all with the greatest possible degree of belligerence. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)