From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Org mode and Emacs Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2022 18:38:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87h74ztshe.fsf@gmx.de> <871qw31ois.fsf@yahoo.com> <8735gj4ceo.fsf@gnu.org> <87ee038ipt.fsf@gmx.de> <87o7z61v59.fsf@gmail.com> <87bkv527p5.fsf@gmail.com> <835yld93w7.fsf@gnu.org> <877d5t0yrn.fsf@gmail.com> <87zginqohs.fsf@localhost> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6160"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: yantar92@gmail.com, acm@muc.de, theophilusx@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 13 00:41:59 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o0WHN-0001P1-Vu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2022 00:41:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53852 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0WHM-0001pp-Hk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 18:41:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46540) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0WEK-0004gs-4R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 18:38:48 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54776) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0WEJ-00065e-CB; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 18:38:47 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=+v4HfZrh8Fegr7gID4EUDw7CJ1TaNwwXY1leV/h7mKs=; b=NUWsqPCqtFIP pKjhdkwP37CW2isSR6FehK2kMV6/QxpWKcQdHtaPN5Y4BNyEYgsr/HserhMgio+IwbYkfo1cTg5Kl fxXjS/pyxrxswn0DFYjqk3naRNo2iqyG+ckkRI1uhQ7fwfy0zpWuKssp4HlVnJ53cTSLsubw1w9LL XtDIirPJp3DUlfhYem1cae7uM603hfyjnKQCSKRMksuuRur87b3eGhe6N75MPl2zzV2BDnTMMKcdx HfGKkcTxqjNKCW4Ew60GpTbMMerAC/3yH5fZGZFR7ls5np+VEBX0GvDE2Swc/YRVjanRKgxhvSrEe xY7mapUHneq2NVNUKv6YSw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0WEJ-0004xJ-1w; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 18:38:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 08 Jun 2022 10:23:51 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291110 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Since we cannot start Org from scratch, factoring out individual modules > > is taking a lot of time and having the hostile attitudes expressed in > > some of the emails in this thread is not exactly encouraging. > I know it's a lot of work and I'm glad you (plural) are taking it on, I feel the same. To move some of the features out of Org, so that they are available in all Emacs modes, will make enhance their availabiliy to all Emacs users. Also, it could eventually make Org itself simpler -- and less daunting to try out and learn. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)