From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: plz Date: Sun, 22 May 2022 19:02:06 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8735h3kukg.fsf@bernoul.li> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35551"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, adam@alphapapa.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jonas Bernoulli Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 23 01:05:24 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nsudY-00090O-Ez for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 01:05:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39462 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsudX-0002By-0Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 22 May 2022 19:05:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56044) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsuaO-0008FZ-9e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 May 2022 19:02:09 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48248) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsuaN-0003Ss-WE; Sun, 22 May 2022 19:02:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=eDEvMhe0YFwmmYIq3ulbgCqMYECm5UuycbCTSzenyUc=; b=T2cEbVVTjqxg WFXkoJ15ZHmAsVlvcA3wZf8jHIrZDcOIaULVW3+q3UsvAnqUPR0sur8Be4fmoSldHhyAM2R0VM538 23xEsn6T8YeHa8xa1Ws4+nUHI+haZdozyHavcWcSYcPqyjXnuchOW69JkEU+VDTNTG0M583z5UhTp 8HuzcqYi2eL48+QEorAyS8LmLg+gIodgIKJcnTDYkbomP6+Te3N3TswPoARLuadxspkGFb2p4z8cg wMz/mHNYVM96w7saUjVKyP0F034NOWmj1CmgCXPBkBSKaYNuThnIo6uYug9bE8B6pU9r8x9pSzFI+ QDxg7nfEjEE7eexFg6PoZQ==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nsuaM-0002qZ-T9; Sun, 22 May 2022 19:02:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: <8735h3kukg.fsf@bernoul.li> (message from Jonas Bernoulli on Sat, 21 May 2022 13:13:03 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290110 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > I hope we can consolidate this with `request.el` and `url.el` sooner > > rather than later. As others mentioned, adding a backend to plz which > > uses url.el (or at least doesn't require `curl` to be installed) would > > be great. > Some people don't like the interface but that was never the main problem > I had with url.el. What caused me pain is its bugs, and I suspect for > many other package maintainers it is the same. Please be it noted that I have no opinion about url.el's code. And no opinion about plz.el's code. I criticized its name for lack of clear relation to the job it does, but nothing else about it. The concern I raised is the avoidable extra complexity of having three different libraries to do similar jobs by different methods, with overlapping but different interfaces. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)