From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: gmail+imap+smtp (oauth2) Date: Fri, 13 May 2022 11:10:33 -0400 Message-ID: References: <875ymc6xxz.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33134"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: tom@logand.com, fitzsim@fitzsim.org, jostein@kjonigsen.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tim Cross Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 13 17:13:59 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1npWzO-0008Ok-Sa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 13 May 2022 17:13:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59454 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1npWzN-0008BX-Ml for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 13 May 2022 11:13:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38068) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1npWw6-00032b-IW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2022 11:10:35 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34636) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1npWw6-0002fx-91; Fri, 13 May 2022 11:10:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=7AoKaJf7Ry2AvbWS00HNtfzvL1fV5MPss4r5DKB+Yqg=; b=JR6Biab6+agZ 5f+m6Jq8F+nkGClqAm+R93dKFo9hPnPraAcvXUFbNcXtpYuPELD4BnemD6KvJ0+M2Hq9ocAQYu5/3 u/zw82rY3H5amxC1FXyWGj+OqRw7cqCZ16wy2uoAU6JMrHEHF10BWw0nHnQVmbKTRLIkK0cqMrTjo kYyG/x8PA9j+ybM4h+HTfr4CMeqpdkPISj562LD6JabbtH3RzR9L3jJrHcTZIc09TplgOzLvL5tMf RPJJS3tHEabEXzWK/nuQJX+jwfheQ8IRvjilMgXAG41AdNA1x35v6hNAifAJ063D/2WsM9gakmk0G Yo9KrNMxeX604wNJdWAM7g==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1npWw5-0004Jb-Qo; Fri, 13 May 2022 11:10:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: <875ymc6xxz.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Tim Cross on Wed, 11 May 2022 22:33:37 +1000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:289746 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Then you can say that you refuse to run Google's proprietary software > > on your computer, and likewise Microsoft and Apple, because trusting them > > that far is against your principles. > and the staff member would say "Sorry, I'm not permitted to do that" or > "Sorry, I cannot do that". If so, then you ask to talk with the manager. After that, you ask to talk with whoever is in charge of admissions. Just because winning freedom is not easy, that doesn't mean we should give up at the first hurdle. By the way, in the 1970s university admissions didn't give students (let alone prospective students) email accounts. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)