From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 9b762c35a1: Add Sefirot to Omer counting Date: Fri, 13 May 2022 11:09:39 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83y1zcwq56.fsf@gnu.org> <20220509.075441.710349049819527507.enometh@meer.net> <83wneuuccs.fsf@gnu.org> <83bkw6t8y2.fsf@gnu.org> <831qx0s2zu.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37468"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ecbrown@ericcbrown.com, enometh@meer.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 13 17:14:46 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1npX08-0009Vy-MU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 13 May 2022 17:14:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34662 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1npX07-00025n-B9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 13 May 2022 11:14:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37690) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1npWvF-00020B-41 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2022 11:09:41 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34576) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1npWvE-0002Kx-HL; Fri, 13 May 2022 11:09:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=txAtzTITWSp3r3JC/Otgn8ya2TcZdyCl8tEc7g5idLg=; b=ozdcXlCz7QnW yW3tOcM1QNxvp/GYryjFOpUAfLsim/RIVfvGfd5lRdnPqxORVZE169lZLWMPo/MBcF/p58hNvq/te q1e6/z4CGV7eh6VIV/9yHbD2CoYzZTjJFDosNTSdr3O0LtLX9KL4TeriD74xzC14v6qLERtE0OQKl 88hfN7KiAxLUIA7LVRP+LKIfHGy8Pvivx7gdlLi827KPLkeMjxUqOj1a/u3z406P8RbdF0pbpb4Hs EahgtfIwzxY5UAyTPFQHlsWmRcuLalY7+qx6tqA5OdrSCGFb4C8c0aiVqq0bHLVtJTqaEdqPCK7Jt +HCANluEZmuEvaacmbT9Kw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1npWvD-00047k-4b; Fri, 13 May 2022 11:09:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: <831qx0s2zu.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Wed, 11 May 2022 14:49:41 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:289747 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > But then neither do the names of the Parshiot. They just name the > Bible chapters, they don't tell what one should do with them. They don't completely spell it out, but the information they give is pertinent only to that. Thus, we can understand them as partial or incomplete instructions for what to do. > "Yom Kippur" and "Eid el fitr" may mean nothing to someone > except the name, but may mean the world to someone else, including > _exactly_ what should be done or not done on that day. Indeed, religious people know their customs for certain holidays, but that's beside the point. The issue is, what is proper material to include in the Emacs calendar? The calendar should limit itself to naming holidays and should not try to be a guide for ways of celebrating them. There are many religions that have ritual calendars, and people could circulate machine-readable lists of them which they could load into Emacs. There could potentially be hundreds of these. It is fine if people use them, but we should not include those lists in Emacs. > > > > The natural place would be between > > > > (1) identifications/names of specific days, and > > > > (2) specific things some groups customarily DO on specific named days. > I already said: every holiday matches (2), IMO. I've already shown that that is not so. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)