From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 9b762c35a1: Add Sefirot to Omer counting Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 05:04:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83y1zcwq56.fsf@gnu.org> <20220509.075441.710349049819527507.enometh@meer.net> <83wneuuccs.fsf@gnu.org> <83bkw6t8y2.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7126"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ecbrown@ericcbrown.com, enometh@meer.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 11 11:11:54 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1noiNr-0001Zl-U1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 11:11:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59504 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noiNq-0005L5-KP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 05:11:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38564) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noiGn-0007IA-AV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 05:04:33 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35248) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noiGm-000567-Ou; Wed, 11 May 2022 05:04:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=Kh7hlRpRt7LNq74PUhxafLydsept5tlcztxOygxzjXo=; b=O3BnEZhCZbdK 3yqoEJu7Mvpqnr6cDwZASonZF5TNcXJj6luxVpyVXM1Q7aYmmUHzEO0tenwLCSl/ioclVlUo8zztI zWqdjd3aHfLQMpKl8Gx5ihpZEMJV5aP8WPOEXMmvdJZggJxtOUBIImvVqyFh+NUDIZxaMDrY0OFDX +8GqXQt/JSveCtTnx0huL1E43WhuiVmGfACpYdKlgy8QXcJy0x+MMuU4XJ0EepgrbAFoD+ESQOk2L hWMLWlWwhn0syqNJtlCVC/C760psmZGV799JyG86itNdn5gi1801hfsi+CsNZPSB5RW+nxFUJRyij c3nZr/T64HWexFWgWWNusw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noiGm-0008Gj-8e; Wed, 11 May 2022 05:04:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83bkw6t8y2.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Tue, 10 May 2022 05:31:17 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:289613 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > That'd mean any holiday should be excluded, since holidays almost > always are "specific things some groups customarily DO on specific > named days". We are miscommunicating. The holidays listed in the Emacs Calendar do NOT describe things to _do_ on that day. Not even the religious ones. "Christmas" does not state what you should do on that day. "Easter" does not. "Yom Kippur" does not. "Chanukkah" does not. "Eid el fitr" does not. "Martin Luther King Day" does not. Those holidays are associated with customs, but what we state in the Emacs calendar is the holiday name only, NOT customs. Sometimes we can see a relationship between the name of a holiday and a way of celebrating it, but the holiday name is not instructions for what to do. I believe my criterion > > The natural place would be between > > (1) identifications/names of specific days, and > > (2) specific things some groups customarily DO on specific named days. > > The first is part of the calendar; the second is an adjunct used with > > the calendar. would not call for removing anything that is included now. If you think it would call for removing something, what precisely? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)