From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: gmail+imap+smtp (oauth2) Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 05:01:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87tu9za6wu.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33616"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: tom@logand.com, fitzsim@fitzsim.org, jostein@kjonigsen.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tim Cross Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 11 11:24:47 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1noiaJ-0008aD-UC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 11:24:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46296 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noiaI-0007SA-Ug for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 05:24:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37456) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noiDl-00057c-UQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 05:01:26 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35082) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noiDk-0004ZG-Og; Wed, 11 May 2022 05:01:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=sM0EdGZZVys2kFuj/JiAdPGEHVvwfJQ+xX1vE9mKqj8=; b=LWHI7lUmAboH KLkNup70MC9hRawImCJFVYxkLNdkwxZUiG+oee0a3Ot3jOkOO8VToSLTQW/+UGEkV5VP2IIkLGNi5 RkXWdAOXKDfWeUqKTBu7U/CniZSRiv9KbJqF/4c4zmgGkL4UW7Of1NqZJgS3wQp6mG5VQskuLaDvn RLHRWyR+/TRu2497MjV39RIqEVHlzZZaANDLXrRPpUgoQS4Hs6MhR91Rcn6IyGdz7zHpNvHYljD2v 05+pHeSGiwbo2FFv7MxpvvmFaFQ6OeVShPeJcpupgszxlrgFVu0VELKxLSYRcukrkLXOCTlBiFeG9 fvHQtm/s67yiBZbwzKooqg==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noiDh-0004bR-SG; Wed, 11 May 2022 05:01:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87tu9za6wu.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Tim Cross on Mon, 09 May 2022 10:01:10 +1000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:289616 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > For the 2FA process. Instead of using something like Google > Authenticator, you could use an open source TOTP client. Your still > going to have to use the non-free Javascript based UI, >From what you've said, it seems that maybe this need only be done once: > > If 2FA is enabled, in which situations does the user have to do the > > 2FA procedure? And how many times? Only once, for setup -- or > > repeatedly? > > > Basically, every time you connect from a new device or new > browser and any time you want to modify your settings. If all you are doing is transfering mail to/from Gmail using free software, I think you won't have to change this once it is set up. However, I am concerned about "connect from a new device". What does "device" mean, if you are running a free program on GNU/Linux on a PC? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)