From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: gmail+imap+smtp (davmail) Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 05:01:20 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87k0b2tkg1.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87zgjx4qhs.fsf@gmail.com> <87bkwcgmr3.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87levfzqj2.fsf@yale.edu> <871qx7scvi.fsf@gmail.com> <87v8ujqec5.fsf@logand.com> <87ee172fjz.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23499"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 11 11:22:49 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1noiYR-0005sI-5D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 11:22:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42896 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noiYP-00059m-VR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 05:22:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37414) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noiDh-00057M-UN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 05:01:25 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35080) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noiDh-0004Yv-Kt; Wed, 11 May 2022 05:01:21 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=PG96UqC8brDuk1XEvFhViTfWi2u6InMuu99gozmZBlU=; b=EGMrnrrNyPqC DKNuHByOocHy7Y5SOHufSMWjVXGJSgSElBsqcjmCYzkWMGLXW0UwV77nOBVuCG4Ai8TftX4eod0Sa +aNdGAqhmm9AmmeY5JJQolgpcShw/ZLegq2FPrBAY+JBO4zrLilviMGL5wbMEthkb4xsc9q/KZ8gt f6vbfNIrYd9dcSwf7IwBTKF5c9ZpddWSXd+FLRy72RqYfu+++5sJS5uO2mJe0lNyjyNhCzcO0pM2C +3GRPy/AqLk71MqyBwc4zhTWWs968bCXE4lY/rO7s+R/svJMwDhYMZnrmQ9ZCWDFSNZMj2rkeSYdB Jfp2SBamhzTO0GNvstynmw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noiDg-0004bD-6A; Wed, 11 May 2022 05:01:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Fri, 06 May 2022 08:46:01 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:289615 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Can someone please establish practically what good davmail can do for the task of using Gmail via Rmail or Gnus, without running any nonfree software? This is a purely practical question. My hope is to find an answer that is factual and certain, replacing all speculation with facts. For this purpose, let's distinguish between (a) configuring the Gmail account and (b) using that account to transfer mail. We know that (a) requires running nonfree JS code; the question is what we can do about (b). -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)