From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: gmail+imap+smtp (oauth2) Date: Fri, 06 May 2022 19:18:17 -0400 Message-ID: References: <871qxbdulc.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <877d72nf3h.fsf@gmail.com> <87v8ul4ad4.fsf@gmail.com> <87r157qcta.fsf@logand.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6190"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: fitzsim@fitzsim.org, theophilusx@gmail.com, jostein@kjonigsen.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tomas Hlavaty Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 07 01:23:27 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nn7IF-0001Nm-9v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 07 May 2022 01:23:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57504 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nn7IE-00085r-8T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 06 May 2022 19:23:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54832) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nn7DO-0006IK-W1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2022 19:18:27 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56594) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nn7DO-00017i-2B; Fri, 06 May 2022 19:18:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=8ofI0XrlNEfyUIsaQ80aT9JXE0gCekKaGrQcFti+fVI=; b=PkqvLDdu9Wjf 0FqYAUgmfYTNnG31ikoaXN0AwldFdrx2jzjXytwTHEP1lq6YDu35O4SxkHCbSYVJvi7mysdLgojwC HwXztFXfp7m7HS3yx8aapmb+Oow6RJZph7bPL62Q8Mt2GzpmK+33TE3VrxjxnEZyTkiLR1KkwmAkT iAA2U/onjI4Hiw/nSvONjxV8HPucGJWLcC9Or8hDUNzSuMu9B6E47a6AkUuuWq5xkFJvW6MS0peyi mCn9U8Gl3KdUhrqZLMj0dN/ugBKSAQFpUqn1Pt3ppz//G6cZkrtM5lyC1LdPbTjGj+dg1TyYeDjvl RV3qlyzyjhWV4hsUdNrBmg==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nn7DF-0001P1-3J; Fri, 06 May 2022 19:18:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87r157qcta.fsf@logand.com> (message from Tomas Hlavaty on Fri, 06 May 2022 10:34:41 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:289356 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > but as pointed out, the real issue is not so much on the client side > but on the server side Since the issue is whether we can use free software to make GNUS talk with Gmail, naturally the issue has a "server side". Would you please identify more precisely what "real issue" you mean? For instance, quote the text that described this issue? There have been so many messages about this that I can't identify one of them based on a generally description of what it said. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)