From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] Package cleanup Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 23:12:06 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20220329004337.nzeew6dlyqxm7wat@Ergus> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13102"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jimmy Aguilar Mena Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 30 05:13:10 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nZOlg-0003Gp-7T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 05:13:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54116 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nZOle-0001kV-NK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 23:13:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42650) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nZOkh-0000o0-JO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 23:12:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=52978 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nZOkg-0008A6-UQ; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 23:12:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=vNLgxA2nWRn5IZaY8nPBk9Ens3aSb9/QhPBC8yRG4JE=; b=Y3/uYSGwQ5EV n+gnR0qRsdcASjiomXUL2JeP2ciUt7S1Y0tWvXcY/wUMK0uGALvMxUnifuYxa5fFXFFV2Q15O6FJB aMRvDq4a4hozE49IYXBnu0rdjK5ChYB9WgdqjYX80Zhy5pBAjU9ME60hsHWf+jB9MpWqjzV0APqY5 TCbyb42n37lWZpvDJEO89Y2RP+zHpZfiP8yzJlDCV+zQ+PSo6EnxzYGoQLuFnjU1pD0yrx0/RSBvU AyeoGeDUV7NrmLh5CC0BpOrtzPprcOPBWhU9T7DE8NzhJK2S0RFoOnp1dW+2K3tvn9pUOiuCYz/IS Cb7OMQTRT/McFnT9ZAk71w==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nZOkg-0000nY-G1; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 23:12:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20220329004337.nzeew6dlyqxm7wat@Ergus> (message from Jimmy Aguilar Mena on Tue, 29 Mar 2022 02:43:37 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:287583 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Thanks for investigating the situation with unmaintained packages. What you've found will help us think about what to do. > Just a question. Did you finally agreed about the package > obsoletion/removal procedure for ELPA? I'd like to see a proposal. > It seems there are some packages there which haven't received any update > in a very long time (>5 years). That suggests they might have bugs and need maintenance, but it does not imply they are useless or obsolete. They might be obsolete, or not. There are many questions we'd want to check to decide what to do with each package. > I have found some packages that doesn't even work or rely on some > features that were obsoleted or removed. In those cases, we clearly don't want to leave the package there in its current form. But what change should we make? We could delete it. We could look for people to update it. Either one might be better, depending on more details. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)