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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Can watermarking Unicode text using invisible differences  sneak through Emacs, or can Emacs detect it?
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 23:15:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1nA2O7-0005jJ-RT@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)

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There is a thread now about confusables.

I read this,

   Unicode allows user tracking by means of invisible text marking. Any
   string can be converted into its binary form and then recoded into a
   string of zero-width characters, which can then be invisibly inserted
   into the text. If the text is posted elsewhere, the zero-width
   character string can be extracted and the process reversed to figure
   out the identity of the person who copied it.

which seems ot be about a special case of confusables, and it makes me
wonder whether Emacs does, or could, show users when Unicode confusion
occurs, or prevent or fix it somehow.

First, is that issue of invisible characters real?

Second, does Emacs do anything now such that these tricks
won't succeed?

If the problem exists in Emacs now, could we prevent it?  I see a few
ways to try.  I don't know whether they would work well.

* Indicate the different encodings on the screen somehow.

* Canonicalize such seqences (perhaps when reading text into Emacs),
so that different encodings of the same text become identical.

* Use a stand-alone canonicalizer program.

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             reply	other threads:[~2022-01-19  4:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-19  4:15 Richard Stallman [this message]
2022-01-19  4:47 ` Can watermarking Unicode text using invisible differences sneak through Emacs, or can Emacs detect it? Po Lu
2022-01-19 10:05   ` Phil Sainty
2022-01-19 11:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-21  4:13       ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-21  7:49         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-22  4:37           ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-22  6:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-24  4:33               ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-24  5:06                 ` Po Lu
2022-01-25  4:17                   ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-25  4:58                     ` Po Lu
2022-01-24 12:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-25  4:16                   ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-25  6:35                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-25 12:12                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-25  4:16                   ` New feature: displaying ligature characters in the buffer Richard Stallman
2022-01-25  6:31                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-27  4:12                       ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-27  7:58                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-25 11:08                   ` Can watermarking Unicode text using invisible differences sneak through Emacs, or can Emacs detect it? Kévin Le Gouguec
2022-01-25 12:38                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-26  3:39                       ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-26  5:38                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-28 13:04                           ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-28 13:31                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-30  4:17                               ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-30  7:36                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-31  4:02                                   ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-31 13:05                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-01  5:06                                       ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-01 14:57                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-02  3:58                                           ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-02 12:28                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-03  4:23                                               ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-03  7:53                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-03  8:16                                                   ` Yuri Khan
2022-02-03  9:26                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-04  3:52                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-04  4:56                                                     ` Yuri Khan
2022-02-06  4:13                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-04  8:10                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06  4:13                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-03 20:28                                                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-02-04  7:07                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-05  4:20                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-05 13:55                                                     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-02-05 14:06                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-05 14:12                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06  1:29                                                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-02-06  8:30                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06 10:38                                                               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-02-06 10:44                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06 10:54                                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-02-06  1:10                                                         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-02-06  4:16                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-06  4:16                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-06 11:29                                                         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-02-04  3:52                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-04  8:03                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06  4:13                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-06  8:56                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-07  5:11                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-07 13:16                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-08  3:55                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-08 12:20                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-09  4:06                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-09 13:50                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-10  3:57                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-10  6:26                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-12  3:57                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-12  7:36                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-14  4:13                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-14 12:07                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-15  4:33                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-15 13:32                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-16  4:14                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-16 12:10                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-19  4:54                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-12 20:10                                                                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-02-14  4:14                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-26  8:20                         ` Andreas Schwab
2022-01-27  4:13                           ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-27  6:39                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-27  8:13                               ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2022-01-27  9:55                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-27 10:29                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-27 17:36                                     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2022-01-27 18:38                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-20  3:17     ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-20  4:54       ` Phil Sainty
2022-01-20  6:39         ` tomas
2022-01-20 17:58           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-22  4:37           ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-22  5:16             ` Po Lu
2022-01-20  7:57         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-20  6:35       ` Tim Cross
2022-01-20  7:39         ` tomas
2022-01-20  8:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-20  7:48       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-20  8:17         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-21  4:14         ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-19  8:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 17:36 ` T.V Raman

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