From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 23:51:26 -0500 Message-ID: References: <897ED591-43BC-4029-912A-917E5E9F6930@gmail.com> <87czlarhff.fsf@yahoo.com> <5D13C3C0-C4EB-4769-9685-25122DC9B8DC@gmail.com> <875yr2rfd1.fsf@yahoo.com> <369E183D-87EC-45AB-8352-9A780006561E@gmail.com> <87zgoeps3f.fsf@yahoo.com> <87zgoeo91m.fsf@yahoo.com> <83ee5j68z9.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26673"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, eliz@gnu.org, casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 11 05:53:00 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n799V-0006jg-UL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 05:52:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56468 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n799U-0002FZ-Jh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 23:52:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54264) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7983-0000RB-EO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 23:51:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=38402 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7982-0004gb-Ee; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 23:51:26 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=4dDBz983NQKzkngmvILSDkYGKEkPGhTthO5miWHIvWU=; b=QdK5g3oDxgGV ySRaw9VAcu9OdJx9QzfwwToQbDmnmM7OlOCIG4CC2gqgBq3bgF8itloTH6tLKGuVzrlBj+SmSp7mj 0JeBQhVpGWFprtaQRq8lhkg4h+vPtb/5jsdTrsdUDcv0zkBjrew9Easx+KtxUjM9LqnKBb4wVMRqL 8HExzaeIdn7RNQRAKebcFKSKmlbnS4ChdabJ9sjWCZkfms99k6z0X+IpNMah61Z0vgCi7krQOuDob uqb6dn1AGRfv7ODqmx13nME57CbGo3jF5oClFt+4mBoF754fhDuXoKdLG5PfP65fT8Q7V43Eqkms+ piApmmqy37doz+peU0EcPg==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7982-0000ZV-MG; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 23:51:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Jean Louis on Mon, 10 Jan 2022 07:15:56 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284575 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > New user will most probably not customize anything. At that point when > user start customizing software, user converts from "completely new > user" to "not any more so new user", at least. One of the main obstacles to becoming an Emacs user is the amount that people need to learn in order to get there. I see no chance we can reduce that obstacle to the point where it isn't an obstacle any more. But reducing it somewhat is a good thing to do, when we can. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)