From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Naming FCRs Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 23:28:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: <01d516b3-86ca-fdf3-73f0-49b2e6930499@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37331"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: jporterbugs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 30 05:34:24 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n2n8x-0009Uq-FX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Dec 2021 05:34:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34750 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2n8v-0008Qh-Hc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 23:34:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54714) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2n3S-0002wu-Q4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 23:28:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=60812 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2n3R-0003hU-St; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 23:28:42 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=Y+pW8lInpIuIUngRVi1KmgCzaW9LzB5ScQtNVoeGVN0=; b=HGEpQk/PUC2p qTETTTkCI3vlt2+2qseE9dyEnpVrvF5SR9RdwQ9J6KHYX7ZlrDBa3nQbRbtLJFPZhXObjxrpcqQc0 mBBQgYhOCTvopd/2/MGpuS/YEDNk2QXR4AemCoIRWvl7qrP2jo3LubSWo55sVs5UPmnMDv+EXW99D ovPQ2dpCQG7moXkhJBVSeHh2yMoZ/HHUP/3zKffMuuYM0fOZZm7GIkmerzKI3uGUPkk6rUxCqmkay 7Lj2bkiW5Nx66XvM1GFMNSGWQ4mcQ3MqmIFpWgawd+CLjs2Dx90TuJvUukndUjW8bS07VskowJKAg 9GpMh+KESE3+v5kk+YjJWQ==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2n3R-0004vw-9I; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 23:28:41 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 29 Dec 2021 14:01:07 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283613 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > I think we should extend the functionality of closures by providing a > > way to access the bound variables in them. Then we won't need to make > > Emacs Lisp more complicated with a new data type, because ordinary > > closures will do this job too. > That's exactly what fcr.el does. I have not seen fcr.el -- would you please send me a copy? However, if it does exactly what I described above, why do we need a name other than "closures"? Why do we need a new type of object? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)