From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On Contributing To Emacs Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 23:51:04 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87v8zbp5l7.fsf@posteo.net> <87ee5ymhsz.fsf@posteo.net> <87r19xktnz.fsf@posteo.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27217"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 29 05:52:32 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n2Qwx-0006ri-QS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 05:52:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44516 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2Qww-000826-7g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 23:52:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48678) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2QvZ-0006l4-0G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 23:51:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=57662 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2QvY-0007QM-IO; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 23:51:04 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=QLTtjAOrezEFH9K554NKtVQ65zDT0WDHW9xU9PyAUPE=; b=rMYG+piSJ6Ql 4sxyF9jnMdh295tMH7JEbufmFB5/RvrKhaI9yHEiLS1usCfw7GaaftRl64EAd4XSJ3lnCDuQRdsmO 4ydm/zA+O2XiUj/l0N/Oip6xF5OGXR9gQMFxo8TYamR6co2lqLzSYjFfv36YtoFtlcyRTbkeDmS52 hQX3p//LVcKbLJ/UdD7P5hGO6H0xrhixWgQXVpHaGY8HMNwefAAvFRmtGf69K73p+W/hN3yesZ3KY 6C5F4A3oWA9ZcIhi83toNXd4dHFn3YaqQiQXvLEFz+kcMl3MpOJE05CRQSnMO9WaJsKNWCHRTcdtI A7WEayhXXVpL5h/wCIGUpw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2QvY-0007q7-Pt; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 23:51:04 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87r19xktnz.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Philip Kaludercic on Tue, 28 Dec 2021 08:41:52 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283531 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > The first step of it -- operating on a package name, which would very likely > > point to a repo site that we condemn, would put us into a moral contradiction. > > However, there's no moral problem in the rest of it. > > > > Would you like to implement `package-fetch' so that it always wants > > a URL as argument? > Do you mean to say that there is an issue in just cloning a git > repository from say GitHub? I see various manings for "just cloning a git repository from say GitHub". I am not sure what issue you're talking about. But I think we are miscommunicating -- talking about two different things. What I'm saying is, package-fetch should not preference specific web sites not run by us. It should definitely NOT preference github, because we urge people not to put their things on github. So I suggest that its argument should be a URL, and it should get the package from that URL. Whatever URL the user gives. If the user specifies a github URL, it would get the package from github. But it should never spontaneously choose or suggest or prefer github. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)