From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Naming FCRs Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 23:19:47 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87bl123k41.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25774"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 28 05:21:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n23z4-0006Xu-Ow for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 05:21:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52820 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n23z3-0005B1-6x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2021 23:21:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42430) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n23xj-0003n1-O2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2021 23:19:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=53422 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n23xj-00025b-4F; Mon, 27 Dec 2021 23:19:47 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=BmjC6nMQ1AwjHsu+oG6mZY/P67LISm/azjqYjb1CMX8=; b=in2Slq5YM6K/ N1/S9VrDnGP27Hg3IzaxCmu3CP1fSNi83sLO+3J/xvNJ0NT33PXNLjCcser1NfoNl/VdIh5D8HwOC LOMjdi2oIHJd8yw9kGUPDmRYi4HeNn1C8zokFRgffLLmom7TdDgXmi3U+/d5iIY3tyEXdiK+/y18B hz+UF6xxOoGZ3XiWtoFQe1Wolg7CYx7TOubwfr4W6G4AnygAP8bHY7GxlAPIPFphzI3VqRWK/N1/z F5IIE1tXfnCK5akhWPEE67O2lqN+Zx/rVouYMMRfZ/8hvmtO4TujjqDeaFXE9+Yfev9n+f5wesoYB nQ8DURuANzauTYnaLZf2hw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n23xj-000756-Bu; Mon, 27 Dec 2021 23:19:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87bl123k41.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Mon, 27 Dec 2021 09:35:42 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283470 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] The term "function with record" has a basic drawback: it describes what these things are built out of, not what they do. Before adding this feature, we should consider whether it would really add significant functionality to Emacs. I tend to think that it doesn't, because they are so similar to the closures we already have. Can anyone make an argument that having functions-with-records as well as closures would be significantly better than having only closures? If not, we may as well leave this alone. But if there is a significant benefit in having functions-with-records, let's give them a name which is not a description of theie low level implementation. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)