From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Development Speed Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 23:13:54 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87sfulx86y.fsf@telefonica.net> <87zgorvdc4.fsf@telefonica.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38475"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 24 05:17:35 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n0c1N-0009kl-5U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2021 05:17:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52538 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0c1L-0005HX-Vy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 23:17:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38166) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0bxq-0007XX-Fn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 23:13:56 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=47654 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0bxq-0000Ev-63; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 23:13:54 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=i7CsFfhAVd2HWffA/keQ/Bt5tX40aktdTURTNmlfng8=; b=mhdpfBGS0IlG v5EGA5J0YiHpzRYcT7RZb4Nce4KfZbmbNYeFF0+g34E5QDAhLSJr98OJm5YPNJnm9NNiOePfAPqGP +sZgG7mSPgtN8WnoJvMSWN45diTEsp97JQMaAirbCMoH4WuGn3fj3Z9miX0G9noaSn4/kMK802CVW m2KwBGOT6/5rcZMAgspXe+Ycxy0B8Yy97jXT7+QXDWGBSNnuZLWZyRcSPiNuGHB8R3v0sj688hIwv z910kAM98un3Ogf5ir0eMWf6qmgh9rG+t4e83EQMygVIRzM7LF9Pn87XOqxkQ3VJ5vcVd/xqD0vor TMB1UCeV9KYLp5ctRX0yZw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0bxq-0002o8-Cz; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 23:13:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87zgorvdc4.fsf@telefonica.net> (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes on Thu, 23 Dec 2021 11:13:15 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283077 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > The very first guideline is: > Please assume other participants are posting in good faith, even if > you disagree with what they say. That's right. And I'm glad to say that I did not impute bad faith to your words. What I said is that you were raging, speaking with aggression, and that that is unkind. > > Your verbal aggression is very unkind, ... > > and makes discussing with you unpleasant. > > We don't need your approval or agreement, so the aggression > > won't win you anything. > > Please try to follow the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines, > > https://gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html. Cooperating, > > to whatever extent we have goals in common, will be much easier > > if you do that. Following these guidelines is not always easy. Even while making an effort, one can fail to do it well. Talking with someone that engages in verbal aggression is stressful, and stress makes one more likely to make mistakes oneself. That's part of the reason it is important for you to make an effort to stop your aggression. > What you call verbal aggression I call speaking own's mind. It is not > like as if I throwed that paragraph out of the blue, there is a lot of > context. What matters to this discussion is that it's verbal aggression and it causes stress for the rest of us. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)