From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: sqlite3 Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 23:42:07 -0500 Message-ID: References: <878rwx8mdn.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgpdhw4d.fsf@yahoo.com> <2F63580E-FF58-45D0-9DBB-389ED64C0F11@mit.edu> <83v8zzw867.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnk7kkxp.fsf@red-bean.com> <837dc6j9ui.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11756"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, qhong@mit.edu, eric@ericabrahamsen.net, cesar.mena@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, luangruo@yahoo.com, eliz@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 18 05:44:29 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1myRa8-0002ti-Po for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2021 05:44:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60318 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1myRa7-0007Sz-U5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 23:44:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35458) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1myRXs-00022Z-0O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 23:42:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=34378 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1myRXr-0000BP-7K; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 23:42:07 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=dgZ+gC/BAyIgt0h89P4aOsmK2KHMWaY2d6BiM3k86Ts=; b=BEAQTi29kqow EfhQysg93ZLGHIFZgFi4cmpZdVWfk/MKi71mTaPdx0N1hWrJ7CBSch+CHa1dKVXKtf0+3NnK5C6T7 2DnsWxWrTToKcM/HJ0aEVOz7mds6C1a5y/4S4YoLGjz/s7hc1fqzOpAJXnBxp0xBrpoTENZBf+0ys ncILpv04BSIJNnYMMix5sy4yFtr5ZC9LeJlQ+L/hQzNBQ1puPLl/Zim2NXF1MszmCu3SpvklkGXIY WJCoFc32JaJ3l/YyShdK+dTz7cdQMwPJybF3OGX3z+bqgBL5SX6mb0lGQqkb7BItKgEAymWkOjORe bUEw0FPFQKUn8dczW8JCyg==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1myRXr-0002Dr-2A; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 23:42:07 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Alan Mackenzie on Fri, 17 Dec 2021 10:37:55 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282249 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Normally, potential new features spend more than just a few days on a > git branch, allowing people the chance to try them out and spot any > problems. That didn't happen with this new sqlite feature. That is where I see a problem, too. sqlite3 has problematic implications. There may be a good solution but we have not determined that. Meanwhile, other solutions were there to be considered. We should not have rushed the decision on what to do. We should have taken it slow, leaving time for people to study various solutions and make a thoughtful decision. Perhaps that decision would have included installing sqlite3. I won't say it wouldn't. But we should not repeat the way that decision was made. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)