From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: persistent data feature Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 23:13:25 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87tufmjyai.fsf@gnus.org> <87bl1olyhr.fsf@localhost> <87bl1ngnj1.fsf@logand.com> <3437406.lxAJRBJNBK@galex-713.eu> <875yrvgchu.fsf@logand.com> <83sfuyq4oo.fsf@gnu.org> <83o85kn0b9.fsf@gnu.org> <87lf0ovep9.fsf@yahoo.com> <83ee6gmywm.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4370"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, tom@logand.com, galex-713@galex-713.eu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 14 05:14:40 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mwzD4-0000yW-1p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 05:14:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59110 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mwzD2-0003d0-Si for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 23:14:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53460) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mwzBu-0001YJ-Tn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 23:13:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=54756 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mwzBt-0007Rg-3p; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 23:13:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=34agQAkUcqtH1NIngqGPXlABQMcSAHp65nQBu/3/LfY=; b=CfrQdb06n773 kHjR+AbsaMMNLGIjyG0hJTnMGoPkvVYNUAZRzFvaWqbLiGFK2a7Hj+FRfvce9jZrOuzcfyzJUvd4c QVnKuQVWdj+Bfvh4h4k7mBvw2vrJO+brqVgblinoS7LOLP+kT6PKveMb1ZwGmadiBc8ypBlgfCuTk yWbmwqd4jUoMaFE5HmffmCCKWXB3bn1N4q9KvPGidq9eQqX0CxAo409vpTpxq9DSkRH/6vigYKTQN Ct+zNIHunHwxOLKp1EaPF6eHkr9M5bd4HVhtipWkcElyW1nExv/FjkV0Z6p8+A/pNK6rTqIBQvLxr q0/vhHqCUozyBmELcFk1Ow==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mwzBt-0003cL-6S; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 23:13:25 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83ee6gmywm.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 13 Dec 2021 15:12:41 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281872 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > I think RMS may have meant the dynamic module support which exists in > > Emacs. Yes, that is what I had in mind. > In that case, it's a misunderstanding and a tangent in the context of > this discussion. We don't use sqlite3 via a dynamic module, and I > personally think it would be wrong for Emacs to provide _any_ core > feature through modules -- doing so just adds complexity for no good > reason. If we really want a feature to be in the core, then we don't want to make it a dynamic module. However, it can happen that we want to support a feature with C code but we don't want it to add to the complexity of core Emacs. Making it a module could be a way to support it but keep it out of the core. That would also reduce the number of libraries that Emacs depends on -- because if a module depends on the library, that means Emacs itself does not have to depend on it. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)