From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: persistent data feature Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2021 23:53:27 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87tufmjyai.fsf@gnus.org> <877dcil2sj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87czm98qi1.fsf@gnu.org> <87o85tcwm0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874k7ljwkr.fsf@gnus.org> <87fsr5cuzq.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <878rwx8mdn.fsf@gnu.org> <87r1aphuei.fsf@gnus.org> <837dcex6ub.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22674"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, cesar.mena@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Pip Cet Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 10 05:55:25 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mvXwK-0005g0-J6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 05:55:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39372 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mvXwI-000220-Nj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2021 23:55:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45426) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mvXuS-0008TE-5Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2021 23:53:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=40252 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mvXuR-0002Vx-Og; Thu, 09 Dec 2021 23:53:27 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=SAyDHWwQvXs2CY8BE24YKZLfpyHXzlNMNtRETAikUP4=; b=EpCYSj+fruGC zazQNodpA3HLVMXy9v8YCyEsCrUu9HbGBYzFExguRrYDxyyQWz2IDA8Wm6QOP3CYKaGSFVZ4f6lxE BDSfzCFF+ANcV7tnsikAaq5IyCqE4Q3mshBZqAN2CObb7UFDj5VHZn2CQv9OI4bwwDa9c1XjqFw0d mjGoSBUc2ljTNUaVMqhnr9yjM2FVyVeKrU26gRoe7ddUAH2fNBGwaBzirgj3nfjt7IlX7utixNOF6 dYSnDgvjMe60AU+i7lbh36ehWbT3aHZQQ/rta/1x4Qxy9O/e52QfIG39KZgnkWjLGkVABxiRbPxqv O7hh+Xjn4dmwqI1ieYC0PA==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mvXuR-0007os-Qb; Thu, 09 Dec 2021 23:53:27 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Pip Cet on Thu, 9 Dec 2021 19:46:22 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281568 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] If we provide a feature for storing persistent Lisp data, I contend that the default option should be to store it in a purely textual file. Many users will not store large amounts of data, and a textual file would be much less risk-prone than any other method. If we decide also to implement the feature of sqlite3 database access, we could offer the option of storing persistent Lisp data in such a database. Users should be able to choose one storage format or the other for each database. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)