From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Mutating existing persistent data Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2021 23:11:10 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87tufmjyai.fsf@gnus.org> <875ys2lyt0.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wnkhlxb9.fsf@yahoo.com> <2FD7D920-D92C-480B-B2AC-91A17F0397C4@mit.edu> <87zgpdi0rk.fsf@gnus.org> <83h7bkzg01.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtlcfaga.fsf@gnus.org> <83ilw0xj6o.fsf@gnu.org> <87v900duuc.fsf@gnus.org> <877dcg2hi8.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87fsr4xc05.fsf@fastmail.fm> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8939"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Joost Kremers Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 09 05:13:21 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mvAo4-0002Ag-RT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2021 05:13:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47688 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mvAo3-0004gd-LP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 23:13:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56410) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mvAly-0002Du-J9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 23:11:10 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=57136 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mvAly-0001NR-9j; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 23:11:10 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=DmKZb5H8cLxMlZrIG8bnsJJ6AgVdN38MsnA9zGCg8I4=; b=CZMmZMp3az9E qELlAC9/AqADMWZawgm46MI/nrtJw1Z7lJPkXy820GbppecxoF9F5XDaImYCDoghoihvYLgpJJP7w CzwiWNMACrNFuNBiBXx0fYVHlhJg4nlF+qTh8VjkTfhZ2t8v24J0B4EsZX32Ygjb0mygK6ei57WrG UOsLGeoi2O3n7zdiuBuvr1o8wj68EbshtzwgKDqkyX0KpIEm3bfxquDACcupwcQ0GwZ6pSCYf2tZG j+R7sgaZ/+emDoSyxxqkTThZS8540C0NOSdmbqT0Ew51sDnksVasKa3/kLxbvmxa+VkHJys8ORIHL zH16cryEHrKyuEwDQqz6qQ==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mvAly-0003nF-9L; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 23:11:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87fsr4xc05.fsf@fastmail.fm> (message from Joost Kremers on Tue, 07 Dec 2021 23:13:58 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281431 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] A defining construct's name should start with `def'. To define a persistent variable, let's use the word `persistent'. So let's call it `defvar-persistent'. I think it is very important to let users specify the use of editable text files for these values. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)