From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling native compilation by default when libgccjit is present Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2021 00:04:15 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83wnkm94oq.fsf@gnu.org> <87y251vdeh.fsf@gnus.org> <87lf11tlzf.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1atrsp9.fsf@gnus.org> <8735n85fa5.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6477"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, akrl@sdf.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 05 06:05:07 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mtjhy-0001SV-KH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 06:05:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33408 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mtjhw-00061r-IW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 00:05:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33252) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mtjh9-0005LL-Mm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 00:04:15 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=58354 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mtjh9-00031W-AN; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 00:04:15 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=+dxfZh9hVz4i1Tv8aVbj8VllwhLpPDqWUxk/5pYzD6I=; b=dfI8DF5F8fUd PlSaJa5JqxK2o5MUEDvOPIkiGmY/kxXTKjoNlD/EDeA/BC+2Y5nQR4IseKCeyQliVqoSs1Fd6wxQI lfjPJKJcYLmGYB3/lAH+kMFkGyG+PS0C3r2L7ehPqSZITaGqjudcxwvnZlNk52FJ1PMjA5bx5WlKa igvOxSM9ZY59PcmaPbvU/oKKiPdjp8xZwwg+yNH0wbA6Uks1p8SCT82cnqBNGcERs55V77d5tSWol 9hj7YMYdhoU9dgnh4MRArAlRIgHNz7fzfI8LILponjmDUIS7mxw4tHK6OPBNJG0MBLUgrCFUae2Uz AGjUdcyCZ2AMiJrpCP1H0A==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mtjh9-0002TG-1w; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 00:04:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: <8735n85fa5.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sat, 04 Dec 2021 20:41:22 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:280955 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I think that native compilation is too new to enable by default. There is no rush about this. Let's release Emacs 28 with it disabled by default. That will give us a year or two to (1) make it really reliable and (2) let users decide which they prefer. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)