From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GStreamer xwidget Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2021 00:18:44 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ee7cq2mu.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87ee7cq2mu.fsf@yahoo.com> <87zgpzp80c.fsf@yahoo.com> <87czmvtf68.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2396"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 21 06:21:47 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mofIQ-0000OV-Q1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 06:21:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51848 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mofIO-0001xq-O5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 00:21:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58054) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mofFW-0000dw-B0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 00:18:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=42016 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mofFV-000824-Vv; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 00:18:45 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=aqDH0oMg99IVl/L/Jum9NDfwvFMx5XZVFejjeh3rc4o=; b=RpL610Y+lqpm GcLRpnDgIlOM3scPxPyDvyfOOyfyl7t/PK+8hHowYbb1KpnLyYg4tb5kZr+dE2RxXsYf93Wtp9Ubq M9d6dLJ55ryKfQ6Xf8KwBZQfqZuKal+SaPpMbtQQHNxaj13jVgt7klLohUOlZj8vyLtZriOei8bB4 lJXUbupVaviPPgg4oSfyM2u5sTwBTQOHyez8P5U2vXqHgStnM5cSsn0rj3hG3DVELSp/iaHQ6EJaX VQh0/Ybcdu8L8MPwr1VO7gM2YZTXMIaGL6hkWyOWnQzdYu49Vn/7Mnb7w7x7flYBxacVJls+CFKar CB78avm54m3H0x/owDNuwQ==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mofFU-00050I-Tw; Sun, 21 Nov 2021 00:18:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87czmvtf68.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sat, 20 Nov 2021 09:16:47 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279815 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Reading web pages that have embedded videos is quite common. How _exactly_ does that relate to letting Emacs make GStreamer windows? Please describe the scenario clearly and spell out the argument. That way we can tell what conclusion really follows. We should have this discussion now, _before_ installing any code for GStreamer, because that's much easier than discussing it afterward. The most important questions are these, Before deciding whether to install this, we need to understand clearly what jobs it can do. What kinds of media does GStreamer stream? Which formats? Does GStreamer implement DRM? Is GStreamer 100% free ziyou software, with no exceptions? because they will determine whether there is an important reason to reject making Emacs work closely with GStreamer. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)