From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : New key binding syntax Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 23:44:54 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20211004081724.6281.11798@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <2345943.K4Yyc4ZcoQ@galex-713.eu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15081"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, galex-713@galex-713.eu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 19 05:46:40 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mnvnM-0003hd-7b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 05:46:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36928 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnvnK-0001eo-Vm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 23:46:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57510) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnvlg-00007G-NT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 23:44:56 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=48962 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnvlf-00018L-PZ; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 23:44:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=o4Pc69ZEUITyVFzlG+WvOOiZHmLg2Kx5HpABCuDV2ig=; b=qn11TzYIE7m3 M5aNaxSkUHP4F2ngDKb9eX9MA7ZFpXPO0eBSWpH6fyIVd0iEJ3jo7Y1AFh+H7JGAzBL8E+jeje1D1 VZQLawBed8tVDFVgSezPJ3HlOXjC/ccKj5fVw05miK1hCPbdzWAAi8YeJi58bbzm85TQMmSq+xI/A 6Xy4of4jK3qYggnfYTPOiPBNeXfe80AAc/xYiBbGpkE0L7Mu/572X1c7236UG6pa1SJGJXe/aEAdo VtTzbUoyXILG2e4g1ad7MnU6PsQdvb43sWVpfu/UscOdyGSxVxNeOYJ0piSJDXAOWcFwwpb8CCz8v ymqqa5f11oC9bLTiKGYsvw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnvle-00034X-Vw; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 23:44:55 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Thu, 18 Nov 2021 03:31:40 -0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279705 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Not in my experience. I have never seen + used to indicate > > keyboard modifier keys. Always C-x, never C+x. > Here are some prominent examples: > https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/keyboard-shortcuts-perform-firefox-tasks-quickly > https://help.gnome.org/users/gedit/stable/gedit-shortcut-keys.html.en > https://help.libreoffice.org/3.3/Writer/Shortcut_Keys_for_Writer > https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/gimp-concepts-shortcuts.html How bizarre they are! I am against making this change in Emacs. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)