From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Grammar checking in Emacs Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 23:06:27 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38585"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, mardani29@yahoo.es To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 16 05:08:16 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mmplX-0009pi-SX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 05:08:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58288 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmplW-00007M-P7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2021 23:08:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52096) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmpjp-0005z9-GV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2021 23:06:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=60096 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmpjo-0007px-K3; Mon, 15 Nov 2021 23:06:28 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=8BhnIbnnBmVd0tXD37uZ5KqFW7/zaPvmmvs0ty5j/Tw=; b=O61XVNBC5thB 8EMqpKB9ibG55xMMCbcQA6NBejbQB75RkVdgzDVAg8TSI+4DCvrBtwUZXXv6Vaxpfr2HnPGEd+IGo SXLA9UK6UOUyHj0+8nfkS3XmqjsYKz/0z32S/Hk3smM/5HHSuo8kp4OfmlG9Z0/iHtH/5NnZeHrrF 2mzQiFsTApZNuGnZFu6IKMSABfZlTYn6NRK4PupwErHmN59IGhCvZGMC3nkZo676GzDatqOITcuHT paypEGhjfmYin+wEhuN54EUPYIIZ8o6NzJ7rjcWRoGvx87DsmefiSfmM2mI5ymOWJjifX1qsqsUSb uM1lt0QwXMq9liQYvi33KA==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmpjn-0007tu-GY; Mon, 15 Nov 2021 23:06:27 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 14 Nov 2021 21:46:19 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279531 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Sadly it's not packaged for Debian (see > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403619 suggests for > the details). I can't see any info about using it on Fedora either. > AFAICT the most popular way to install it is as a "snap" package, which > I consider to be a euphemism for a blob :-( I think the same. I am starting to think that the GNU Project needs to adopt standard not to steer people towards programs which are released primarily via containers, on the grounds that it is too hard to tell whether they are actually free. This would also cover the programs that are built using package library managers such as pip and cargo, which don't provide a way to reject the nonfree packages they contain. Basically, the difference between these and container managers are not significant for this issue. Some of the packages are free, and some of them may work with only free packages, but unless we can say how to install them in a way that you can verify is free, we cannot that that as known. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)