From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some improvements for cl-flet Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2021 19:37:10 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87bl4zqnqn.fsf@gmail.com> <87czpe4rj2.fsf@web.de> <874kaqqxe7.fsf@gmail.com> <87y281cowz.fsf@web.de> <87sfxdr2ds.fsf@gmail.com> <877demdb5w.fsf@gmail.com> <87tuhq20tp.fsf@web.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39614"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: nuclearspace@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 10 01:38:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mZLut-000AA9-Cp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 01:38:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33866 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mZLus-00023H-B6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 Oct 2021 19:38:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52520) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mZLtv-0001G5-ON for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Oct 2021 19:37:11 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37412) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mZLtv-0005Vo-CH; Sat, 09 Oct 2021 19:37:11 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mZLtu-0004b4-BF; Sat, 09 Oct 2021 19:37:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87tuhq20tp.fsf@web.de> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Sat, 09 Oct 2021 08:01:54 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276628 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > `thunk-let', a kind of a lazy let, is another example. Practically speaking, how important is it to access the same variables as simple variables, rather than using an explicit macro to access them? I think it is very important to maintain the principle that a variable's value only holds a sexp, that _seen from Lisp_ accessing or setting the variable cannot "do" anything. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)