From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 02:03:11 -0400 Message-ID: References: <16338bdc2497fc51c6fb6d54ab370bfb@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <874ka5gsqa.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19054"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: psainty@orcon.net.nz, joaotavora@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 30 08:46:17 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mVpph-0004iC-0l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 08:46:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51496 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVppf-0008V9-Ov for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 02:46:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50816) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVpA1-0005rp-MX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 02:03:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59558) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVp9z-00022i-U3; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 02:03:11 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVp9z-0004WH-DM; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 02:03:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: <874ka5gsqa.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Tue, 28 Sep 2021 07:43:41 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:275852 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Yes, it'll break a lot of tooling. Can you report any specific problems? > My argument was: If we want to add something along these lines, it > should be more like Common Lisp's package system. That is far more complex and has deep flaws. The symbol prefix renaming feature is much cleaner. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)