From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Representation of the Emacs userbase on emacs-devel Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2021 23:14:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: <57ca4d78-2339-201d-edce-678c9b003a99@yandex.ru> <83bl5dsh8b.fsf@gnu.org> <8335qps8vs.fsf@gnu.org> <9471c28f-8eae-b555-ee86-9fffd6229937@yandex.ru> <87r1e690n8.fsf_-_@posteo.net> <9d5a2f83-d564-22e1-0cbd-df760044528f@yandex.ru> <837dfyyxyl.fsf@gnu.org> <875yvfmlku.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16621"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tim Cross Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 07 05:14:59 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNRZb-00046i-Ah for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 05:14:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59092 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNRZZ-0002H6-O0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 23:14:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52704) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNRYt-0001b5-Gp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 23:14:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34656) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNRYt-0005ZQ-90; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 23:14:15 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNRYt-0006I2-5J; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 23:14:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: <875yvfmlku.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Tim Cross on Sun, 05 Sep 2021 19:06:12 +1000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274186 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > I just don't think discussion should be in terms of "sane", "better" or other > > value-loaded terms. "Different" is probably the most helpful term we can use > > here. > I wold agree with this sentiment. Another term could be 'alternative'. > Using terms like 'sane' or 'better' is likely to add more 'noise' rather > than useful discussion as it can tend to make people feel like they need > to defend their particular preferences as being 'sane' or 'better'. I agree. We can be kinder in this discussion if we avoid implying that a preference for some different key bindings or interface is a sign of a personal failing. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)