From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gitlab Migration Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2021 23:44:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87h7fcnmq0.fsf@posteo.net> <83tujbqg4j.fsf@gnu.org> <46353190-1190-495f-b15e-22980159b3ab@yandex.ru> <83y28mp0rb.fsf@gnu.org> <51a363db-fde7-791d-cf8d-98ac601d62ee@yandex.ru> <57ca4d78-2339-201d-edce-678c9b003a99@yandex.ru> <01341bd6-b94b-4f94-1461-405e723142ad@yandex.ru> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37393"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: philipk@posteo.net, danflscr@gmail.com, lokedhs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru, eliz@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 05 05:46:35 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mMj75-0009ZD-5h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 05:46:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38188 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMj73-0001km-DB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 23:46:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37672) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMj5b-0007QY-7h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 23:45:03 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52986) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMj5a-0007Dn-Tm; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 23:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMj5S-0001cN-08; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 23:44:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 3 Sep 2021 12:45:31 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273985 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > To give a concrete example, the kill ring is objectively better/more > powerful than the undo/redo you find in other text editors. I see how it makes sense to compare undo/redo with Emacs undo, but how does it make sense to compare undo/redo with the kill ring? They do different jobs. I think undo/redo instead of undo-only might be an improvement in Emacs, and might not be hard to get used to as a change -- if only we can find a key binding for redo. I know we had a discussion of this before. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)