From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gitlab Migration Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 23:09:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87h7fcnmq0.fsf@posteo.net> <83tujbqg4j.fsf@gnu.org> <46353190-1190-495f-b15e-22980159b3ab@yandex.ru> <83y28mp0rb.fsf@gnu.org> <51a363db-fde7-791d-cf8d-98ac601d62ee@yandex.ru> <57ca4d78-2339-201d-edce-678c9b003a99@yandex.ru> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1945"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eliz@gnu.org, danflscr@gmail.com, philipk@posteo.net, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 31 05:12:32 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mKuCO-0000It-6V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2021 05:12:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52366 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mKuCN-00056e-34 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 23:12:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52740) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mKu9w-0001L6-Oy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 23:10:02 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44930) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mKu9u-0008Rt-1z; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 23:09:59 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mKu9s-0000xe-9s; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 23:09:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: <57ca4d78-2339-201d-edce-678c9b003a99@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Mon, 30 Aug 2021 15:20:51 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273566 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Yes, as is now apparent from multiple arguments around the subject, > appealing to newcomers (and/or trying to adopt contemporary usability > practices) is of much lesser priority than, say, making sure that each > key binding that has been with us for a number of years, is left > unchanged for ever. We hate to risk inconveniencing existing users. Please don't bring sarcasm into our discussions. It tends to make the discussion more acrimonious and make agreement more difficult. Any point can be made without sarcasm, and it's likely to arouse less resistance that way. See https://gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)