From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gitlab Migration Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:58:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87h7fcnmq0.fsf@posteo.net> <83tujbqg4j.fsf@gnu.org> <46353190-1190-495f-b15e-22980159b3ab@yandex.ru> <83y28mp0rb.fsf@gnu.org> <51a363db-fde7-791d-cf8d-98ac601d62ee@yandex.ru> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31676"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, danflscr@gmail.com, philipk@posteo.net, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 30 04:58:46 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mKXVW-00083Z-97 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 04:58:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53424 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mKXVV-0004Oh-BE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:58:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50188) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mKXUw-0003iv-1h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:58:10 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60894) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mKXUv-0002o4-JS; Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:58:09 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mKXUu-0003dw-NL; Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:58:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: <51a363db-fde7-791d-cf8d-98ac601d62ee@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sun, 29 Aug 2021 05:27:48 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273456 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > perhaps even an ability to write messages from > the browser (which is certain to appeal to some newcomers). It is fine to offer this feature, provided the message turns into email so that we can receive it in our inboxes. Is that the case? > Overall, if we finally accept that neither UI familiarity (for new > users) nor workflow familiarity (for new contributors) are a priority > for the Emacs project, this might a reasonable option to migrate to. They count for something, but less than many other countervaling values. This is meaningful at the "all else being equal" level. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)