From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gitlab Migration Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 23:03:19 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87h7fcnmq0.fsf@posteo.net> <87czpzzqa0.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35925"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: theophilusx@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 29 05:05:05 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mKB85-000953-AJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 29 Aug 2021 05:05:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36160 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mKB83-0002vp-Bx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 23:05:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51568) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mKB6Q-0000rs-BW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 23:03:22 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54358) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mKB6P-0004dm-Ks; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 23:03:21 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mKB6N-0005S6-Sf; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 23:03:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Arthur Miller on Sat, 28 Aug 2021 06:50:04 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273364 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > To recommend that people use one of them would contradict our goal of > > computing that respects the user's freedom. Thus, we can't recommend > > any of them. Whatever practical "advantages" it might have, they > > could not make up for the moral contradiction it would cause. > ? I didn't recommend to anyone to use those, nor did I spoke in their favor, I > just generally spoke about what some people prefer and I try to speculate why. I am glad to know you're not arguing for them, and that I misunderstood before. That misunderstanding was not just random. In a discussion about what methods we should adopt, to say that a large group of people (whom we would like to recruit) are accustomed to methods A, B and C is not a big step away from advocating their use. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)