From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gitlab Migration Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 22:59:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87h7fcnmq0.fsf@posteo.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22708"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: danflscr@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 28 05:02:00 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJobY-0005lU-7L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 05:02:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36316 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJobW-0005bU-4q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 23:01:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36984) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJoZ0-0002i8-9s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 22:59:22 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48226) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJoYz-0002he-9N; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 22:59:21 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJoYz-0000XX-4e; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 22:59:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87h7fcnmq0.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Philip Kaludercic on Thu, 26 Aug 2021 17:24:07 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273213 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Shouldn't it be easier to send an email than create an account, navigate > some web UI and fill in some form? Yes it is. However, it's more than just ease of use at stake. You also need to have an internet connection at the moment that you try to use the web forum. Not so for sending email. But those are merely practical considerations. There are also moral considerations. To make an account on a web forum, you have to use that platform in the way it is set up to require. You have to accept its terms and conditions, which may be morally unacceptable. When you send email, you use your own choice of tools and platforms -- the same ones you used to send mail to a different forum the day before. This is why the GNU Project continues to specify that a GNU package should have a published bug-reporting email address. > A mailing list does not allow this, so for newcomers the fear of > "doing something wrong" is high. It is ok to offer a web forum as an alternative interface for sending a bug report, just as Emacs has M-x report-emacs-bug. As long as the forum's software and use conditions are ethical. Another way to encourage users to report bugs is to focus on our appreciation for bug reports, and show it whenever users give us a bug report. It's a GNU Project policy to state thanks for each bug report. Many projects have an issue > reporting template now, and that can be nice. That sounds good. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)