From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: oauth2 support for Emacs email clients Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 23:00:27 -0400 Message-ID: References: <52589.36892.953561.24840@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87pmuofpai.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfzk71xw.fsf@randomsample> <87k0kw6liw.fsf@randomsample> <87fsvk6i5e.fsf@randomsample> <87sfzhekgv.fsf@randomsample> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25332"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: fitzsim@fitzsim.org, winkler@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Engster Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 11 05:01:26 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mDeUf-0006RY-Rx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 05:01:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46520 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mDeUe-00047I-Mk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 23:01:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40818) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mDeTk-0003H2-O9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 23:00:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45034) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mDeTk-0007l0-Fn; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 23:00:28 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mDeTj-0001Gw-KP; Tue, 10 Aug 2021 23:00:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87sfzhekgv.fsf@randomsample> (message from David Engster on Tue, 10 Aug 2021 11:07:44 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:272307 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > I haven't tried yet, but I suspect using Emacs in my organization would > > be harder because, what GUID would I use? > Well, you could just use Thunderbird's. It's all right here: > https://github.com/mozilla/releases-comm-central/blob/master/mailnews/base/src/OAuth2Providers.jsm > You shouldn't though, because that could get you in trouble. While all > this stuff is essentially security theatre, good luck explaining that to > your IT security department... It's possible that you're right. But, because your statement is takes a leap and doesn't describe the logical steps, it is hard to verify that. Would you like to help determine whether that approach is practical? And, if not, why not? For instance, why would the organization's IT security team care whether he runs Thunderbird, or runs Emacs and tells some company it is Thunderbird? How would it even notice that he's using Emacs rather than Thunderbird? Emacs can be thought of as a modified version of Thunderbird, right? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)