From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggested experimental test Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 02:09:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: <831ba60af0cbfdd95686@heytings.org> <87mtuxj8ue.fsf@gnus.org> <9088e12cb3de3d30abf1@heytings.org> <8735wnjsum.fsf@gnus.org> <271290d7aa8b3d984968@heytings.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2491"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: gregory@heytings.org, larsi@gnus.org, bugs@gnu.support, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 23 07:09:57 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lOaEn-0000Rn-Oy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 07:09:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35550 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOaEm-00036r-NL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 02:09:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43590) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOaE3-0002gV-MC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 02:09:11 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48552) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOaE1-0001Wy-Sy; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 02:09:09 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lOaE0-0005Mb-R4; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 02:09:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Alan Mackenzie on Mon, 22 Mar 2021 17:46:54 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266853 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > Gregory, don't you think that 3 users including me who expressed their > > > objections is not part of the experiment already? > > No, precisely because nobody actually experimented the potential change. > There's no need for any "experiment". It's perfectly obvious what you're > proposing and the effect it will have. What we don't know is how many users will oppose the change, nor what reasons they will give us. It is not absurd to try an experiment to find out. However, when people say before the experiment that they oppose the removal, they do count. They are users and they know they use this feature. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)