From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggested experimental test Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 19:13:20 -0400 Message-ID: References: <831ba60af0cbfdd95686@heytings.org> <87mtuxj8ue.fsf@gnus.org> <9088e12cb3169cdcdbc4@heytings.org> <9088e12cb3a70cbf66aa@heytings.org> <9088e12cb381e11e6d32@heytings.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38021"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 22 00:13:53 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lO7Gb-0009oS-2H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 00:13:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39890 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lO7Ga-0005aB-47 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2021 19:13:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59584) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lO7G5-0005B2-5n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2021 19:13:21 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45791) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lO7G4-0008SX-VH; Sun, 21 Mar 2021 19:13:20 -0400 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lO7G4-0004iu-7u; Sun, 21 Mar 2021 19:13:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: <9088e12cb381e11e6d32@heytings.org> (message from Gregory Heytings on Sun, 21 Mar 2021 23:05:20 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266729 Archived-At: > It isn't a small change to remove a feature completely. When asked to > keep _a_ binding, it has been meet with silence and it has been more > important to inconvinence users than to listen to them, so I can only > assume that this will a similar case for C-o. Your assumption is wrong. Neither center-line nor center-paragraph have been given an alternative binding. The same is also applicable for facemenu. Despite requests for it. Please have a look at the proposed experiment: it moves open-line to repeated C-o. A proposal is not reality, and such a behaviour would be yet again beyond annoying. How about doing polls first instead of doing this blind experiments where it will be far to late when these changes sneak into Emacs for them to be changed back.